"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Stop Rating Women!

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This is my latest revelation. It's also a response to: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=120366

I've realized that rating women is ridiculous for several reasons:

1) You're automatically putting the woman on a pedestal by giving her a rating. You're giving her credit because her parents gave birth to her. If anything, you should be giving her parents a number for having good DNA (resulting in her good looks).

2) Women aren't any different from each other. When you give one woman a number of "hotness" you're going to treat her differently. But she's no different from an ugly girl. Treat all women the same, unless they earn something more.

3) Most women - not all - are hors. I've come to see this recently. Like I said above, why should I give her credit for just being born the way she was? Don't waste time decide her level of hotness. She's just a hor like any other girl, unless she proves to me that's she's any better.

I wanted to mention this because it's what got me over any fear or anxiety whatsoever. Even the tiny ounce of nervousness I may have had is all gone. I think the whole rating thing revolves around your fear of women. The more you fear a woman or are intimidated by her looks, the higher you rate her. Why give into the illusion that her looks are so important that you actually fear her?

What's funny, is how the women with the highest ratings are often the ones with the most fragile minds, and self-esteem issues. It doesn't even make sense to be giving a girl more credit about her looks than she gives to herself.

When I see a woman now, I don't think about how hot she is or what I would rate her. I appreciate her beauty for what it is, and I think about how she makes me feel. If I feel aroused or enticed, I go talk to her. I think once you start doing this, it's like your mind is a lot clearer. No more overanalyzing or anything.

~aA~

P.S., to the crowd of losers who like to incessantly debate looks matter or not - you are all on my ignore list, so don't even bother responding. Please don't make this into another looks debate, because that's not what this thread is about! Regardless of who is right or wrong, half of you will get women and the other half will not. It doesn't matter if someone thinks looks don't matter. Let them think what they want to think.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You either find her attractive, or you don't. It is as simple as that to me. I don't use ratings.
 

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I personally think you folks forgot the time honored tradition of the female rating score developed in a scientific study:

A female can be rated in four categories:
she is hot (good)
she is not hot (bad)
I would have to bag it and tag it (nice body..bad face)
I would have to turn the lights off (this is something I tell no one about)

This is all in good fun, but seriously rating a girl on 1-10 is so full of BS because what I might consider a 2 may be a 10 to some folks. Also the basic fact is, women should never hear you give out scores , it only empowers them or turns them off.
 

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Why not just cal her beautiful, gorgeous, cute, hot, ugly, fat, whatever

who needs numbers?
I like girls numbers.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Numbers are stupid because I keep hearing about how damn sexy movie stars like Nicole Kidman and Heather Locklear are yet I would only give those two a 5 if that was the average score, they are both right in the middle in regards to all of the woman I have ever seen.
 

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that's an interesting point - the VAST MAJORITY of chicks can indeed fall into the grey area of subjectivity.

sure, there are those SO UGLY that it is incomprehensible that ANY would find them attractive but most chicks don't reach those depths. it's up for interpretation and beauty is in the eye of the beholder (within reason).

i agree the nic and locklear do nothing NOTHING for me. locklear is CLEARLY the INFERIOR heather! heather THOMAS (from fall guy... oh... she is vastly superior). but for both nic and lock, i would admit that they're objectively attractive... just doesn't float my boat.

let's see... who else... jennifer garner... yech... nothing. her appeal is a true mystery to me.

delta
 

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I have three categories: Attractive, Average, and WarPig.

I dont go from 0.00 --> 9.99 That's just geeky, and its damn annoying because your 5 might be my 6. And my 3 might be your 5. Its all subjective.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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~attrACTION~ said:
This is my latest revelation. It's also a response to: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=120366

I've realized that rating women is ridiculous for several reasons:

1) You're automatically putting the woman on a pedestal by giving her a rating. You're giving her credit because her parents gave birth to her. If anything, you should be giving her parents a number for having good DNA (resulting in her good looks).

2) Women aren't any different from each other. When you give one woman a number of "hotness" you're going to treat her differently. But she's no different from an ugly girl. Treat all women the same, unless they earn something more.

3) Most women - not all - are hors. I've come to see this recently. Like I said above, why should I give her credit for just being born the way she was? Don't waste time decide her level of hotness. She's just a hor like any other girl, unless she proves to me that's she's any better.

I wanted to mention this because it's what got me over any fear or anxiety whatsoever. Even the tiny ounce of nervousness I may have had is all gone. I think the whole rating thing revolves around your fear of women. The more you fear a woman or are intimidated by her looks, the higher you rate her. Why give into the illusion that her looks are so important that you actually fear her?

What's funny, is how the women with the highest ratings are often the ones with the most fragile minds, and self-esteem issues. It doesn't even make sense to be giving a girl more credit about her looks than she gives to herself.

When I see a woman now, I don't think about how hot she is or what I would rate her. I appreciate her beauty for what it is, and I think about how she makes me feel. If I feel aroused or enticed, I go talk to her. I think once you start doing this, it's like your mind is a lot clearer. No more overanalyzing or anything.

~aA~

P.S., to the crowd of losers who like to incessantly debate looks matter or not - you are all on my ignore list, so don't even bother responding. Please don't make this into another looks debate, because that's not what this thread is about! Regardless of who is right or wrong, half of you will get women and the other half will not. It doesn't matter if someone thinks looks don't matter. Let them think what they want to think.

It does matter.

Yes, you do treat her differently when you first meet her, because of how physically attractive she is.

If a 10, i mean a model was speaking to you. You'd speak to her differently than a 7.

The super hot ones get hit on ALL THE TIME. You have to be more indirect and during the early stages of an interaction, you have to show some disinterest. While with an average girl, you can give her more attention and she'll soak it all up. She isn't as used to being hit on.

Super hot girls have been told they were gorgeous by their parents when they were 5, by school boys when they were 13, by randoms when they turned 16!

They are desensitized by it. Average girls are not.

It may seem harsh, and in actual fact, it is. But, yes, you treat women differently based on their looks.

Deep inside, and i mean real fvcking deep, they may be just a normal girl. But society has plowed on layers and layers of attitudes and personalities that may seem "congruent with a hot chick", but may be false.

You treat them differently during the early stages. Later on, i guess you could treat them normally. But, there's a risk that they will eventually find you less attractive if you don't add a little spice, show some disinterest, emotionally reel her in.
 

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"3) Most women - not all - are hors. I've come to see this recently. Like I said above, why should I give her credit for just being born the way she was? Don't waste time decide her level of hotness. She's just a hor like any other girl, unless she proves to me that's she's any better. "

I like this point! Its like one guys signature on here- "after all- its just ass!"


I guy I knew used to rate girls a bit differently. We seen this hot girl- he says shes a 2. So I start to think, this guys got high standards. We see another girl bigger girl- he says shes a 6. Then I think what the hell is going on here. Then a huge girl walks by- he says she is deffinatley a 10!

I couldn't take it anymore and asked what the hell he was talking about? He said his scale is a measurment of how many furrow she could pull!
 

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~attrACTION~ said:
This is my latest revelation. It's also a response to: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=120366

I've realized that rating women is ridiculous for several reasons:

1) You're automatically putting the woman on a pedestal by giving her a rating. You're giving her credit because her parents gave birth to her. If anything, you should be giving her parents a number for having good DNA (resulting in her good looks).

2) Women aren't any different from each other. When you give one woman a number of "hotness" you're going to treat her differently. But she's no different from an ugly girl. Treat all women the same, unless they earn something more.

3) Most women - not all - are hors. I've come to see this recently. Like I said above, why should I give her credit for just being born the way she was? Don't waste time decide her level of hotness. She's just a hor like any other girl, unless she proves to me that's she's any better.

I wanted to mention this because it's what got me over any fear or anxiety whatsoever. Even the tiny ounce of nervousness I may have had is all gone. I think the whole rating thing revolves around your fear of women. The more you fear a woman or are intimidated by her looks, the higher you rate her. Why give into the illusion that her looks are so important that you actually fear her?

What's funny, is how the women with the highest ratings are often the ones with the most fragile minds, and self-esteem issues. It doesn't even make sense to be giving a girl more credit about her looks than she gives to herself.

When I see a woman now, I don't think about how hot she is or what I would rate her. I appreciate her beauty for what it is, and I think about how she makes me feel. If I feel aroused or enticed, I go talk to her. I think once you start doing this, it's like your mind is a lot clearer. No more overanalyzing or anything.

~aA~

P.S., to the crowd of losers who like to incessantly debate looks matter or not - you are all on my ignore list, so don't even bother responding. Please don't make this into another looks debate, because that's not what this thread is about! Regardless of who is right or wrong, half of you will get women and the other half will not. It doesn't matter if someone thinks looks don't matter. Let them think what they want to think.

I have come to realize you are right. If we rate girls, we will become insecure because our own rating of ourselves might not be as high as what we give the girl. E.g. I see myself as a 7 and I think that hot girl on the street is a 9 (in my mind), it would make me think one doesn't deserve her because a 7 shouldn't be with a 9. (out of his league)

This is silly because you can be underestimating yourself and overestimating the girl.

Good Post, for now on I am going to go with either "I find her attractive or I do not find her attractive.
 

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I like the whole pass/fail type, also liked it better in school.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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mahon83050 said:
I have come to realize you are right. If we rate girls, we will become insecure because our own rating of ourselves might not be as high as what we give the girl. E.g. I see myself as a 7 and I think that hot girl on the street is a 9 (in my mind), it would make me think one doesn't deserve her because a 7 shouldn't be with a 9. (out of his league)

This is silly because you can be underestimating yourself and overestimating the girl.

Good Post, for now on I am going to go with either "I find her attractive or I do not find her attractive.
Cool, but hope you know it's a post coming from a keyboard jockey. I don't rate women any more, but I'm not dating any at this moment in time either. So, just wanted to put that out there.
 

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I find it silly that you guys could be so philisophical about ratings.

The whole point of ratings was an attempt to standardise communication. Whether you feel chicks are either hot or not then thats your call. but ratings are here to stay. People can understand them and communicate them. If you were to communicate "yeah shes attractive" I'd still want more information.
 

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Rating is only used in FRs when we talk about our problems and situations. Of course we wont tell a chick "i talked to a HB10 from campus the other night...", nah no one does that. Rating gives me a good guage of how ****y and funny or how many negs i should throw. A 10 would obviously get more negs than say a 7 or an 8.
 

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Why?

Why the hell would you treat her any better? Because she has a little makeup on? Fvck that.
You don't treat her "better". You treat her differently. If you read the rest of my post, you wouldn't be asking why.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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