“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

Still legitimately wondering about this...

Bigpapa

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
3,246
Reaction score
2,522
Age
126
Dunno , to be frank I see a lot of theories on this forum that do not make a lot of sense , as it tries to normalize the extreme cases .

in addition to this , people here also take women way more seriously than they should .

from my end women are silly and cute , and they also change what they think based on the emotions that they feel .

Would you take serious someone that is always changing their point of view ?
 

Bigpapa

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
3,246
Reaction score
2,522
Age
126
Hahaha, nope.

I've been saying this a lot lately. Guys take women way too seriously. They're just silly little girls.
i think that this sums up perfectly the whole thread

http://instagr.am/p/CImC2zBgue5/
It is a little bit corny , but yes , it makes a lot of sense .

if we would see women for what they should be , and this is her being a cheerleader for you , a lot of threads discussed here will go away
 

BeExcellent

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 16, 2015
Messages
5,366
Reaction score
7,816
Age
57
I have lots of thoughts on this. Headed out for the evening but will contribute tomorrow...
 

christie

Banned
Joined
Oct 29, 2020
Messages
786
Reaction score
491
Essentially yes, Men would prefer a cuckquean however cuckqueans often want to be either humiliated or desire to feel lower than the cuckcake. Most Women wouldn't want to feel like this (unless it's her fetish) because their jealousy and insecurity will be greatly increased along with fear that the other Women will satisfy her Man much better than her. If she has bi-tendencies then it could all work out in occasional threesome but that's diving into different waters.

In order for the girlfriend/wife to cuckold her husband, he would have to agree to it and he potentially bisexual or he greatly enjoys that fetish. Just like Women, Most Men wouldnt want that because they may have the same fear and insecurities.

When it comes to Women and side guys, I think many times it comes down to her main Man (Boyfriend/Husband) not being dominant and masculine in and out of the bedroom thus resulting in her wanting to find that strong, dominant masculine Man to satisfy her kinky/sexual side and in some occasions her emotional side of needing to feel that dominant presence that she lacks at home. However, she will not leave her Boyfriend/Husband who's a "Nice Guy". Why would she? she get's the pleasant talks and companionship in her every day life but get's the good hard fvck by a dominant Man once in a while.

Finding a boyfriend who claims he's fully monogamous and does not desire any other Woman sexually is easy to find however you would have to wonder if he's being 100% genuine about that or he's feeding you pleasant lies you want to hear?

Tell a Man, "Hey I'm into relationships but if you're going to be my long term boyfriend I just want to make something clear, I know you'll have other sexual desires so I'm ok with the occasional side chick as long as you keep 100% honest communication with me about it and I even get to meet her" - Watch his eyes light up brighter than the brightest Christmas tree. He will NEVER let you go.
So many thoughts when I read your reply. This is awesome.

First, reading along your reply it made me think that a man seeks a more feminine woman than his main when he goes looking for a side dish. Typicalliy, the sides are more submissive, compliant plainer women I've heard before.

Next, I was thinking my number one gullible relationship trait is trusting my man right away, idolising him and faithfully defending him that he doesn't lie to me.
The moment the last one first lied to me was actually in the beginning. He laughed after the reveal. If I can remember the first lie and reveal, I can learn to walk immediately and that could have been a memory linked to that one.



Next, I was thinking that women should just say these things to make his eyes light up like a Christmas tree and then just covertly get her side guys. Learn to lie like a man historically, so-to-speak.

I'm not comfortable with changing my character In2theGame.
I'm just studying what game I can use to my benefit.

Maybe only date male pornstars? They get paid to have variety, lol.
If I'm sharing a household at least I'm benefitting$$$ from his variety seeking thirsts/hunger.

Male pornstars wouldn't cheat on their main. They're already getting it. LMAO.
 

In2theGame

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
1,147
Age
43
Location
New York City
Might be a Red flag bro she might be projecting. Before she said it there was a thought and an emotion.
Dont forget about solipsism.

Plausible deniability just entered your relationship.
I would have answered this differently.
The reason that initial question popped up was because while we were talking on the phone I mentioned that my best friend called and we caught up on some things since we haven't been able to hang out due to covid. Once she asked what we were talking about, my best friend who has been married a few years was telling me that it's hard for him to not have sex on the side and that's when she asked me. I told her the honest truth however I did not say it in any obnoxious way but I stand by always being straight up honest about what's really on my mind.

I haven't done anything behind her back but I do have the "crave" for some variety and I have had other Women around me that pretty much let me know they're open to getting fcvked. I did not act on it but I find it incredibly difficult to adjust my former self of almost 10 years sexing so many different Women that I'm wondering if I could ever go back to a one Woman Man. The last time I had a serious relationship was 2010 and it ended by my ex cheating on me and getting engaged to another Man within 2 months out of the 5 year LTR with her. That fvcked me up and I really have never been the same when it comes to the mindset of relationships.

Like I mentioned before, My girl now is great and is very submissive to me sexually and non sexually but the sexual variety still lingers in my mind. I started questioning if many feel like this as well with their girlfriends/fiancés/Wives yet don't vocalize it, do their dirt on the side or just deal with it. Just like the analogy I used with food in my previous posts.... How can eating the same meal (that you love to eat) not get stale after a while? I just don't really see how that's possible.
 
Last edited:

In2theGame

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
1,147
Age
43
Location
New York City
And she asked because shes detecting it in the bedroom to a degree... and rest assured she is already looking out for herself and her future. Your performance is sub par.. so yea you might not be into her but if she is a 7.5+ in this market she is about 10 months ahead of you.
Dude, I blast her out in the bedroom. The massive puddle after we're done fvcking takes like 20 minutes to clean up because she's squirted all over the floor and the sheet's are soaked. Sometimes all over me and I have to shower. She orgasms many times.

I still enjoy sex with her and the reason she asked that question, I listed above.
 

In2theGame

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
1,147
Age
43
Location
New York City
@stringpuller Also, could you see yourself with one Woman sexually for the remainder of your life?

This question is not only directly towards you as I'm curious as to what all guys answers on here.
 

In2theGame

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
1,147
Age
43
Location
New York City
I dont believe it sorry. Im giving you the benefit that this is a hot girl and not a lower educated low self esteem girl.
LSE girls can do this... and they end up being stalkers

High self esteem girls don't have these convos. Their intuition already knows by how other girls look at you. Thats my take and good luck with it.

Be interesting to see how this one goes in a few years
I mean, do you want me to show pictures of the aftermath? lol I have no reason to lie about this. This is the upfront truth. I'm very well endowed (A blessing) which I never say on here because that makes it look like I'm trying to "puff my chest out" which I'm not trying to do but it has greatly helped in making many Women orgasm very hard.

As far as her "SMV" I guess you can say,.. She went to a top University and hits around $150K a year, which by NYC standards is still not "baller" status but overall she does very well.
 

In2theGame

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
1,147
Age
43
Location
New York City
So many thoughts when I read your reply. This is awesome.

First, reading along your reply it made me think that a man seeks a more feminine woman than his main when he goes looking for a side dish. Typicalliy, the sides are more submissive, compliant plainer women I've heard before.

Next, I was thinking my number one gullible relationship trait is trusting my man right away, idolising him and faithfully defending him that he doesn't lie to me.
The moment the last one first lied to me was actually in the beginning. He laughed after the reveal. If I can remember the first lie and reveal, I can learn to walk immediately and that could have been a memory linked to that one.



Next, I was thinking that women should just say these things to make his eyes light up like a Christmas tree and then just covertly get her side guys. Learn to lie like a man historically, so-to-speak.

I'm not comfortable with changing my character In2theGame.
I'm just studying what game I can use to my benefit.

Maybe only date male pornstars? They get paid to have variety, lol.
If I'm sharing a household at least I'm benefitting$$$ from his variety seeking thirsts/hunger.

Male pornstars wouldn't cheat on their main. They're already getting it. LMAO.
The side girls don't necessarily have to be more feminine than the main. Men enjoy femininity overall regardless of who the Woman is. That's what makes him feel like a Man. When Women are submissive towards him.

When it comes to trust, that can be an overall people thing but I understand what you mean about a guy lying to you but let me ask you, would you have preferred him be open and honest with you? or keep on lying? At least if he was upfront honest about it, sure you may have felt upset but at least you know he's telling you the truth.

Next, I was thinking that women should just say these things to make his eyes light up like a Christmas tree and then just covertly get her side guys. Learn to lie like a man historically, so-to-speak.
In my opinion, I wouldn't do this but you have free choice and although you may feel like lying to a guy because you have been lied to in the past by other Men, It could end up hurting both of you (Whoever you decided to get involved with). I've been lied to in my past relationships and I told some lies as well but over time I realized it's always better to tell unpleasant truths than pleasant lies. I'm sure it would be refreshing to you if you met a guy who was completely open and upfront honest with you regardless if it makes you upset or not.
 

christie

Banned
Joined
Oct 29, 2020
Messages
786
Reaction score
491
The side girls don't necessarily have to be more feminine than the main. Men enjoy femininity overall regardless of who the Woman is. That's what makes him feel like a Man. When Women are submissive towards him.

When it comes to trust, that can be an overall people thing but I understand what you mean about a guy lying to you but let me ask you, would you have preferred him be open and honest with you? or keep on lying? At least if he was upfront honest about it, sure you may have felt upset but at least you know he's telling you the truth.


In my opinion, I wouldn't do this but you have free choice and although you may feel like lying to a guy because you have been lied to in the past by other Men, It could end up hurting both of you (Whoever you decided to get involved with). I've been lied to in my past relationships and I told some lies as well but over time I realized it's always better to tell unpleasant truths than pleasant lies. I'm sure it would be refreshing to you if you met a guy who was completely open and upfront honest with you regardless if it makes you upset or not.
They have all been open and honest eventually; I have to meditate if any were upfront open and honest(in the beginning).

Do you know none have been socially referred to me? Technically, they had no references from a social circle, noone to vouch for them personally or matchmake them to me. I don't count work or school as a social circle.

Keep being upfront and honest. I was honest with the last one and I learned the most about myself in the process.
What I was reminded of in that relationship was that dreadgame and competition anxiety drives me away much like it would drive an alpha male away if a chic did that to him.

I think the answer to your thread questions lies in that funny Patrice Oneal yt video posted here in this thread.

With the modern woman, there may not be many or any that would accept side chics. I could be wrong and that wasn't in your questions.

Maybe its in T levels: Men with higher T need more variety?
Get your levels checked maybe?

I once mused if there is a saturation point for men consuming the buffet of girls. Once he reaches the 1000 notch count the thirst/hunger/ennui/greed/fickleness dissipates?

Is it environment?
Take In2theGame out of high population NYC and strand him on an island with his girl, does he still crave other girls if only one girl is what he smells and sees daily?

Fascinating topic.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

BeExcellent

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 16, 2015
Messages
5,366
Reaction score
7,816
Age
57
Advice from the old lady:

The desire for variety stems more in some guys from a desire for conquest. Conquering the Queen as one of my playboy friends put it. He was unreal at seducing women and loved getting a quick bang or a blow in the parking lot, then back in the venue & continue the night...he has been dating a girlfriend of mine for 2 years and he dropped all the other women for her...but he misses chasing skirts. He loves his GF and knows she’s unique and so forth. But he misses it. And his gf is a freak and is very good to him & very stable.

Another playboy friend has decided to get into a monogamous relationship with a woman he’s been seeing off & on for about six years. He really doesn’t miss variety (at least not yet) but he is very satisfied with her in bed, he’s always thoroughly enjoyed her in bed...so he doesn’t feel the itch. He may want to flirt on occasion and he’s told her this, and they are doing fine in the framework they have set up.

The issue of transparency is an interesting one. I see it both ways. There is value in a man being totally direct & honest but there’s also no need to rub a girl’s face in the sheets by going into sordid details...for LTRs this has to be negotiated and I think being direct is a better practice.

I go out with highly sought after men. Women always notice them and often will try and make overtures because he is desirable. So I am always well aware of the competition aspect, always aware of the attention from other women. Knowing a man is desirable requires a certain moxy to manage and a high self esteem. I observe his behavior. If he ignores, discloses and exhibits loyalty to me under those circumstances (typically the case), then that reinforces my interest in him. I do not cling, nor act needy, even though I will not say if I am feeling a little jealous. I respond in kind. If he thinks a little flirting with someone else is Ok, I will do same...and if he doesn’t like me flirting I will calmly explain that his behavior sets the rules...and we play by the same rules (no double standards)...but I have to be prepared to let him go if he won’t behave well...and that isn’t always easy (but it keeps sexual tension high)...

I have had men hide things from me in past relationships. Deception is a cancer to a healthy relationship. When the deception gets discovered (and in a LTR it eventually will get discovered)...then trust is broken, sometimes irreparably. It is much harder to repair a breach in trust than to deal with an unpleasant transparency. Anybody can lie. Lies are easy to get into and hard to get out of. Transparency is tougher on the front end but builds solid trust on the back end.

And I know men who are devoted husbands who are utterly and absolutely loyal to their wives. Happily so. They have the blessing of not knowing ridiculous abundance OR they went through ridiculous abundance, found it empty and moved on to something meaningful.

The men who most desire endless novelty and variety no longer believe that something truly real and meaningful exists. They got their heart wrecked somewhere along the way and are forever running from that hurt, and forever seeking external validation of their virility through conquest and use refusal of monogamy as a defense mechanism. These men are not ones to relinquish their options, fan clubs, fwbs, etc.

But the itch can still be there. Even in men who are generally happy with their partner. It’s the result of experiencing Pandora’s box...
 

Medina

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 23, 2019
Messages
862
Reaction score
1,543
Why are you getting into deep conversations with women? Always give a smirky James Bond answer. Leave her wondering etc

Making her cry and telling her you'll eventually have sex with someone else? In a serious tone? You think this is a good idea?

This thread may come back to bite you in the @$$ mate
 

ImTheDoubleGreatest!

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 14, 2014
Messages
5,747
Reaction score
2,964
Age
27
Location
Right behind you
Alright, I’m gonna have somewhat of a long response here since I’m gonna be picking at some others’ posts like I always do....
It makes me wonder if ...
  • The majority of Men were just never good with seducing Women so they are happy with just having one sexually
  • Men like me are few and we have a "problem" with not being able to be sexually satisfied with one Woman - I say "problem" because you know,... society shames Men that think like this.
  • The majority of Men do in fact want multiple Women but they either never verbalize it or don't have the "game" to pull that off so they settle.
You’re on the money here. It’s not so much any one of these alone as it is a combination of all of these.
  • Does society socially program and condition Men to feel like having one special Woman sexually is enough?
  • Do you think you can be with one Women sexually for the remainder of your life?
  • Do Men suppress their true sexual desires so they avoid shaming?
1) Absolutely. It comes with all of those movies where the hero gets the girl in the end or where the dorky loser gets with the hot cheerleader; all of these combined tell men on a subliminal level to “fight” for women (superhero movies/shows) and to pander to them in the hopes that “she’ll eventually see just how much you love her and love you back” or some **** (romcoms/standard Hollywood films). This is disseminated propaganda that cripples society because it turns men into simps and wimps and turns women into belligerent thotties, especially when paired up with the already-existing favoritism towards women in general. It’s also not just this entertainment media that does this, but rather media as a whole. And so it influences the population to think a certain way, act a certain way, be a certain way, etc. until eventually our entire culture is what they programmed it to be.
2) Yes, I personally do think that I myself can be, but she’s need to be “the one” lol so take that as you will. I just can’t see myself doing monogamy for long term unless the woman is literally beyond perfect in every way possible simply because I’ve just gotten self-aware enough to realize that I won’t take **** from a woman, especially not a spouse/partner. That alone will cause me to end the relationship and kick her to the curb if she does something wrong (which, as we all know, they will). I’m also not willing to compromise on looks at all of it means she’ll be sweeter, because if she’s a sweet girl who is ugly, then that means she’s only sweet because she doesn’t have her looks to play off of—NOT because she’s actually a warm-hearted person inside. And if she somehow actually is, then I’d still be dissatisfied with her BECAUSE of her looks, which would cause me to cheat. It’s not so much that I ‘need variety’ as much as it is these women are just subpar for my liking. And the thing is, this was always the case with me; it’s just that coming here gave me the balls to finally be a man and not look at women as anything more than they are.
3) 100%. EVERY man to some degree (provided there isn’t some anomaly going on) will desire another woman to some extent. How strongly they feel it, however, is dependent upon the man himself and his experiences, etc. Some men actually believe that they aren’t attracted to any woman when in a relationship and only desire their one woman, as we’ve seen above. However, these people have simply had their instincts suppressed and programmed out of them under the guise of “growing up” and “not being immature anymore” lol. But if they were to really get back to their roots of who and what they really are inside, instead of the monotonous android that life and this society has socialized them into, they’d find that yeah, they definitely could get with a whole lot of women lol

As for people in your situation—yes there are also some men who simply cannot help it and need variety. However, the men in THIS category often suffer from seeing women as more than they are. What I mean by that is, you start to see your woman as being ‘bland’ after a while because she was never really all that to begin with, but just appeared so. When you first see a girl, you view her as being that way naturally (“that way” meaning how she looks, how she talks, acts, etc.). But over time, you see that she isn’t really like that, she just made herself look LIKE that. Instead of seeing a girl with a pretty face, you see a girl who had her eyebrows done and out on some makeup. Instead of seeing a girl with nice curves, you see a girl who starved herself for a day and a half who is wearing high-waisted jeans that are extra tight around the waist and looser-fitting around the hips. Instead of seeing a chick with a nice ass, you see a girl with tight hip flexors (giving her anterior pelvic tilt) whilst wearing yogas that look like these so that her ass appears to pop out more than it really does lol. So after a while, your chick starts to look a little bland, especially after you’ve seen her naked. In other words, the novelty has worn off—on this particular woman anyway (the same novelty wears off on women as a whole once men have sex for the first time, hence why nonvirgins tend to be more chill and laid back than virgins). Just because she’s ****able doesn’t mean that’s what you really want inside. But here’s the thing, if you had a chick who was so stupidly sexy that she made all other women look ugly in comparison, most men wouldn’t feel that need for ‘variety’ anymore (provided she wasn’t being a ***** either).

There still are some men who would though. These other men are like this (imo) because of the hypersexualization of society making them want/need sex in general more than they actually do, and also because of the instant gratification hit where once you try it i.e. variety, you can’t get enough of it. I think the latter one stems from the “thrill”, so to speak, and also from trying to find the “best” woman out of all of them but then trying them all anyway just because. Kinda like how if you had to pick to bring home your favorite food dish out of an array of dishes, but then were suddenly allowed to take them all home, you’d probably take them all. But now that you’ve had them all, you realize you don’t just want the one dish now, now you may want multiple RIP. You either never should have been exposed to it in the first place, or you’ll just have to control yourself. Life isn’t all about sex, so desexualizing this hypersexual culture (or at the very least take yourself out of explicitly sexual situations i.e. bars and clubs and put yourself in more wholesome environments) will help a bit.

Also, you do have to remember that your one relationship from 2010 messed you up like you said and that you’ve never been the same since. That can have an affect on you where you never really feel fulfilled in relationships and all on subconscious level RIP. I wouldn’t chalk it up to “forever seeking external validation of their virility through conquest and use refusal of monogamy as a defense mechanism” as BE puts it, that’s overly-simplistic and quit frankly childish and rudimentary in thinking. People usually make statements like these when they’ve been programmed by society into thinking that a man who doesn’t want to settle down is just engaging in “toxic masculinity” or has “fragile masculinity”; just another bull**** way for society to control men by shaming us for being simply being men.

Also, I don’t remember who said it but someone before said that 90% of the people who cheat are men and I’m just like that’s so blatantly false it makes my head spin. Women cheat more lol especially younger chicks. The reason why guys complain about women cheating is because when a guy cheats, it’s usually because the woman sucks lol but he still loves her and doesn’t want to hurt her, whereas when a woman cheats, it’s because she’s saying “you’re not good enough for me”. That’s why so many women have a greatly overestimated perceived sense of value nowadays lmao
Dread Game is all about the woman's fear of loss. A woman absolutely needs to fear losing you to be sexually attracted to you.

Once she safely feels like she's secured you.....well, we know where that leads = Dry poontang.
It’s not that women need to fear losing you in order to be attracted to you so much as it is women simply conforming to others around them; if others find you attractive, you therefore are attractive (even if you aren’t). If others find you unattractive, you therefore are NOT attractive (even if you are). Dread game only works because bitches feel jealousy like you wouldn’t believe. Men will kill over it, but women will destroy the lives of themselves and everyone else around them just to spite someone.

Also, you being “safely secured” isn’t what turns her off, rather it’s her taking you for granted. And that’s more so a problem with her as a person rather than her as a woman; it’s just that because she’s a woman people will treat her differently to where she can take things/people for granted more readily than others (i.e. men).

I know I’m splitting hairs here but it’s important to note the nuances if you wanna take it to the next level.
 

In2theGame

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
1,147
Age
43
Location
New York City
Alright, I’m gonna have somewhat of a long response here since I’m gonna be picking at some others’ posts like I always do....

You’re on the money here. It’s not so much any one of these alone as it is a combination of all of these.

1) Absolutely. It comes with all of those movies where the hero gets the girl in the end or where the dorky loser gets with the hot cheerleader; all of these combined tell men on a subliminal level to “fight” for women (superhero movies/shows) and to pander to them in the hopes that “she’ll eventually see just how much you love her and love you back” or some **** (romcoms/standard Hollywood films). This is disseminated propaganda that cripples society because it turns men into simps and wimps and turns women into belligerent thotties, especially when paired up with the already-existing favoritism towards women in general. It’s also not just this entertainment media that does this, but rather media as a whole. And so it influences the population to think a certain way, act a certain way, be a certain way, etc. until eventually our entire culture is what they programmed it to be.
2) Yes, I personally do think that I myself can be, but she’s need to be “the one” lol so take that as you will. I just can’t see myself doing monogamy for long term unless the woman is literally beyond perfect in every way possible simply because I’ve just gotten self-aware enough to realize that I won’t take **** from a woman, especially not a spouse/partner. That alone will cause me to end the relationship and kick her to the curb if she does something wrong (which, as we all know, they will). I’m also not willing to compromise on looks at all of it means she’ll be sweeter, because if she’s a sweet girl who is ugly, then that means she’s only sweet because she doesn’t have her looks to play off of—NOT because she’s actually a warm-hearted person inside. And if she somehow actually is, then I’d still be dissatisfied with her BECAUSE of her looks, which would cause me to cheat. It’s not so much that I ‘need variety’ as much as it is these women are just subpar for my liking. And the thing is, this was always the case with me; it’s just that coming here gave me the balls to finally be a man and not look at women as anything more than they are.
3) 100%. EVERY man to some degree (provided there isn’t some anomaly going on) will desire another woman to some extent. How strongly they feel it, however, is dependent upon the man himself and his experiences, etc. Some men actually believe that they aren’t attracted to any woman when in a relationship and only desire their one woman, as we’ve seen above. However, these people have simply had their instincts suppressed and programmed out of them under the guise of “growing up” and “not being immature anymore” lol. But if they were to really get back to their roots of who and what they really are inside, instead of the monotonous android that life and this society has socialized them into, they’d find that yeah, they definitely could get with a whole lot of women lol

As for people in your situation—yes there are also some men who simply cannot help it and need variety. However, the men in THIS category often suffer from seeing women as more than they are. What I mean by that is, you start to see your woman as being ‘bland’ after a while because she was never really all that to begin with, but just appeared so. When you first see a girl, you view her as being that way naturally (“that way” meaning how she looks, how she talks, acts, etc.). But over time, you see that she isn’t really like that, she just made herself look LIKE that. Instead of seeing a girl with a pretty face, you see a girl who had her eyebrows done and out on some makeup. Instead of seeing a girl with nice curves, you see a girl who starved herself for a day and a half who is wearing high-waisted jeans that are extra tight around the waist and looser-fitting around the hips. Instead of seeing a chick with a nice ass, you see a girl with tight hip flexors (giving her anterior pelvic tilt) whilst wearing yogas that look like these so that her ass appears to pop out more than it really does lol. So after a while, your chick starts to look a little bland, especially after you’ve seen her naked. In other words, the novelty has worn off—on this particular woman anyway (the same novelty wears off on women as a whole once men have sex for the first time, hence why nonvirgins tend to be more chill and laid back than virgins). Just because she’s ****able doesn’t mean that’s what you really want inside. But here’s the thing, if you had a chick who was so stupidly sexy that she made all other women look ugly in comparison, most men wouldn’t feel that need for ‘variety’ anymore (provided she wasn’t being a ***** either).

There still are some men who would though. These other men are like this (imo) because of the hypersexualization of society making them want/need sex in general more than they actually do, and also because of the instant gratification hit where once you try it i.e. variety, you can’t get enough of it. I think the latter one stems from the “thrill”, so to speak, and also from trying to find the “best” woman out of all of them but then trying them all anyway just because. Kinda like how if you had to pick to bring home your favorite food dish out of an array of dishes, but then were suddenly allowed to take them all home, you’d probably take them all. But now that you’ve had them all, you realize you don’t just want the one dish now, now you may want multiple RIP. You either never should have been exposed to it in the first place, or you’ll just have to control yourself. Life isn’t all about sex, so desexualizing this hypersexual culture (or at the very least take yourself out of explicitly sexual situations i.e. bars and clubs and put yourself in more wholesome environments) will help a bit.

Also, you do have to remember that your one relationship from 2010 messed you up like you said and that you’ve never been the same since. That can have an affect on you where you never really feel fulfilled in relationships and all on subconscious level RIP. I wouldn’t chalk it up to “forever seeking external validation of their virility through conquest and use refusal of monogamy as a defense mechanism” as BE puts it, that’s overly-simplistic and quit frankly childish and rudimentary in thinking. People usually make statements like these when they’ve been programmed by society into thinking that a man who doesn’t want to settle down is just engaging in “toxic masculinity” or has “fragile masculinity”; just another bull**** way for society to control men by shaming us for being simply being men.

Also, I don’t remember who said it but someone before said that 90% of the people who cheat are men and I’m just like that’s so blatantly false it makes my head spin. Women cheat more lol especially younger chicks. The reason why guys complain about women cheating is because when a guy cheats, it’s usually because the woman sucks lol but he still loves her and doesn’t want to hurt her, whereas when a woman cheats, it’s because she’s saying “you’re not good enough for me”. That’s why so many women have a greatly overestimated perceived sense of value nowadays lmao

It’s not that women need to fear losing you in order to be attracted to you so much as it is women simply conforming to others around them; if others find you attractive, you therefore are attractive (even if you aren’t). If others find you unattractive, you therefore are NOT attractive (even if you are). Dread game only works because bitches feel jealousy like you wouldn’t believe. Men will kill over it, but women will destroy the lives of themselves and everyone else around them just to spite someone.

Also, you being “safely secured” isn’t what turns her off, rather it’s her taking you for granted. And that’s more so a problem with her as a person rather than her as a woman; it’s just that because she’s a woman people will treat her differently to where she can take things/people for granted more readily than others (i.e. men).

I know I’m splitting hairs here but it’s important to note the nuances if you wanna take it to the next level.
Appreciate the response
 

christie

Banned
Joined
Oct 29, 2020
Messages
786
Reaction score
491
They have all been open and honest eventually; I have to meditate if any were upfront open and honest(in the beginning).

Do you know none have been socially referred to me? Technically, they had no references from a social circle, noone to vouch for them personally or matchmake them to me. I don't count work or school as a social circle.

Keep being upfront and honest. I was honest with the last one and I learned the most about myself in the process.
What I was reminded of in that relationship was that dreadgame and competition anxiety drives me away much like it would drive an alpha male away if a chic did that to him.

I think the answer to your thread questions lies in that funny Patrice Oneal yt video posted here in this thread.

With the modern woman, there may not be many or any that would accept side chics. I could be wrong and that wasn't in your questions.

Maybe its in T levels: Men with higher T need more variety?
Get your levels checked maybe?

I once mused if there is a saturation point for men consuming the buffet of girls. Once he reaches the 1000 notch count the thirst/hunger/ennui/greed/fickleness dissipates?

Is it environment?
Take In2theGame out of high population NYC and strand him on an island with his girl, does he still crave other girls if only one girl is what he smells and sees daily?

Fascinating topic.
I'm going to add a reason guys still desire other women.
Its because their instinct is telling them that something is 'off' with the woman they are with. They just haven't experienced her bad behaviour yet, but their instinct tells them its coming.

Spinning plates is a good survival technique.
 
Top