"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Steroids: Ever done them?

JohnnyStorm

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As per title, I've been thinking a bit recently about the kind of guys that grace the covers of muscle and fitness magazine's portraying a body image that is certainly unrealistic (it's a photoshoot after all) and perhaps even unattainable for someone who isn't taking steroids. Do any of you guys roid up? If so, are you worried about the side effects and are steroids commonplace in gyms now?

Personally, I enjoy working out. But I do it for me, the day I start agonizing over muscle definition and start taking selfies is the day I'll stop doing it. But then I'm not training to be a bodybuilder where at the highest level any substance that gives me an advantage could perhaps be worth considering.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

TheStig

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Nope. I have nothing against guys that do but I'm just not into all that.
 

Colossus

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I have. I'm "retired" for now. I was an active powerlifter and I wanted to take my game to the next level. I had lifted drug free for about 7 years and gained around 50+ lbs of muscle before I ever touched steroids.

They certainly work. But they are hormones with complex pathways and shouldn't be taken lightly. are they as dangerous as they are made out to be? Not really. But they are not completely safe drugs either. There are no safe drugs. Everything has risks and a potential benefit.

I don't advocate anybody use them unless they have been training for 7 or 8 years and really have tried to maximize their genetic potential.
 

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JohnnyStorm said:
As per title, I've been thinking a bit recently about the kind of guys that grace the covers of muscle and fitness magazine's portraying a body image that is certainly unrealistic (it's a photoshoot after all) and perhaps even unattainable for someone who isn't taking steroids. Do any of you guys roid up? If so, are you worried about the side effects and are steroids commonplace in gyms now?
I have never taken steroids and yet I was able to achieve a similar physique you see on muscle and fitness magazine covers. For me it took sheer dedication, intense training and a clean healthy diet and most importantly patience if you want to get like this. Stay committed...Simple as!
 
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