Step up cold approach game

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You realize you can go out with the express purpose of meeting women, while not being a "PUA" right? This is a primary point I keep trying to make and it's just not sinking in for some people.

PUA: Mystery. Peacocking. Dancing monkey trying to entertain women and say whatever needs to be said to "create" attraction in them.

Normal, but enlightened Person: In daily life, and sometimes with the sole intent, goes out on a walk and enjoys interacting with strangers. If he sees someone he is attracted to, he will stop her and have a genuine interaction with her and if she qualifies herself to him, he will ask her out on a date.

If you are waiting in the subway and see a hot girl, you are allowed to talk to her. Shocking I know! And flirt with her. And ask her for her number. And ask her out on a date. 999/1000 won't immediately reach into their purse and spray you in the face with mace (I'm still waiting for that #1000). And if you are allowed to do all this while on your way to work, there is no difference in going out with the sole intent to do it. I've seen people argue that this will cause you to reek of desperation that girls will smell on you but I've not experienced this myself. My guess would be that the guys who are saying that are either too afraid to cold approach so they are making excuses, or they don't know how to hold a conversation like a man with a stranger they are interested in sleeping with so they had some bad experiences and rather than working to improve themselves, they simply throw out the excuse that it's "not a viable option."
The thing is I don't think if you don't work out the nerves about approaching women that you won't even talk to a nice girl on the way to work. You'll just stay in your shell. However, if you are used to talking to girls like that, then it's an easier stretch to do that if you see someone on your way to work. If you don't cold approach because you feel desperate, then in that example of meeting someone on your way to work the desperate vibes will still come out because those vibes are based on how many hard options or positive experiences you've actually have, not on how or when you are approaching.

Either way, if you go out there with the sole purpose of talking to girls then that's like molting or like a snake shedding its skin and makes it easier to talk to women because you are working on the anxieties and phobias. Now, if you take this medication known as "Propranolol Hydrochloride" 40 mg after cold approaching, it should work on the brain to relieve the phobia/nerves aspect of cold approaching, so that during consolidation (i.e. how your brain assorts memories after you sleep), if you cold approach the NEXT day in this treatment, then I think that should work at making it easier to work on the mind to cold approach.
 
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I find this difficult to do since I go off the reactions I receive. If she's being distant/uninterested/weirded out, it totally kills my vibe for her and I'll just stop and move on to the next one. Maybe that's something I should work on, maybe it's not. I personally don't like to gamble my time on a female who isn't responding like a normal person.
Don't get me wrong. I don't continue conversations with uninterested women. The scenario I just mentioned was specifically in response to your comment about women who don't KNOW how to have a conversation with a stranger, not women who do not WANT to have one. It's easy to tell the difference. 95% of women I approach want to have a conversation with me, sometimes they just don't know how so I teach and guide them.
 

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At age 53, daygame is the only way to go. Places like Whole Foods, the grocery store, farmers markets, etc. You strike-up a conversation as the opportunity presents itself. If you see a lady that you want to meet, you go speak with her.

For intermediate-level daygame, where you have made at least a few approaches and have the basics down, the best resource that I have found is Troy Francis' most recent book "Approach Her Like Chad".

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V2414F5

It's $3.49 on Amazon Kindle and worth it. Troy focuses on the things that you can do to make cold approach fun instead of weird. That's what you want to do, make it less weird.

A lady totally knows that I'm hitting on her, when I ask about the organic crackers in her shopping cart. Many times, she wants me to succeed. The goal is to make it less weird, so that she feels comfortable in helping me succeed.
 
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Looking to step up my cold approach game.

Aside from the obvious (clubs/venues/bars) what do you all recommend or where do you find yourself doing the most cold approach? I know it’s a “in your daily life” sort of thing, but what about going out for the sole purpose of meeting women?

Additionally, what are thoughts on nofap in relation to any of this (if any)?
My vote would be for anything fitness related.

For me the best place is always the gym/fitness clubs/fitness classes. I have 2 gym memberships and 1 mma membership. That's my social life away from my social circles during the daytime. My niche. I've had women approach me and I've approached women. At this point, I think I've mastered all the subtle nuances to gym game. Some guys think women just want to workout, but I know its BS. Every time I work out, women are always making eye contact and swimming in sexual tension. It's a place where women get to see attractive men doing something productive. And it's also a place where women genuinely check guys out, instead of having a resting b1tch face like the clubs.

You gotta find your niche. For some guys it's social events where they like to network. And for other guys it's fitness clubs where women are half naked. Not to toot my own horn but I usually get a lot of ioi's so I don't make any qualms about where I end up.

I think most guys have what it takes to get laid consistently. 90% of the battle is having that ecosystem where you know women are constantly coming in. If you don't have this - if you go long enough without female interaction on a daily basis, you'll carry a desperate energy bout you that you yourself would not even notice. Women are designed to sniff out abundance.
 

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My vote would be for anything fitness related.

For me the best place is always the gym/fitness clubs/fitness classes. I have 2 gym memberships and 1 mma membership. That's my social life away from my social circles during the daytime. My niche. I've had women approach me and I've approached women. At this point, I think I've mastered all the subtle nuances to gym game. Some guys think women just want to workout, but I know its BS. Every time I work out, women are always making eye contact and swimming in sexual tension. It's a place where women get to see attractive men doing something productive. And it's also a place where women genuinely check guys out, instead of having a resting b1tch face like the clubs.

You gotta find your niche. For some guys it's social events where they like to network. And for other guys it's fitness clubs where women are half naked. Not to toot my own horn but I usually get a lot of ioi's so I don't make any qualms about where I end up.

I think most guys have what it takes to get laid consistently. 90% of the battle is having that ecosystem where you know women are constantly coming in. If you don't have this - if you go long enough without female interaction on a daily basis, you'll carry a desperate energy bout you that you yourself would not even notice. Women are designed to sniff out abundance.
Either you are consistently making sh!t up in your posts or women think you look so good that you live in the other reality I mentioned in my post and so your advice doesn't really apply to 90-95%+ of guys (although everyone on the internet seems to say/think they are "at least a 7" or more, so I guess very few will agree with me). My sniff sense is going off.
 
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Either you are consistently making sh!t up in your posts or women think you look so good that you live in the other reality I mentioned in my post and so your advice doesn't really apply to 90-95%+ of guys.
Are you sure it's not because you are ugly? I've seen guys that are 6's and 7's pick up chicks at fitness classes.

This forum acts like noone is having sex or that it is only relegated to chads. But in reality, just about everyone is having sex/hooking up in social circles. There are ugly guys with hot chicks everywhere.

The last time I was at a bar, I saw a fat dude number close a hot bartender and she spent the entire time flirting with him while ignoring us.

It's only in the manosphere that LMS = absolute. So when I talk about getting ioi's at the gym, you guys think I am some kind of God, lmao.

In the REAL world, guys of all shapes and sizes are pulling chicks in every walk of life.
 
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The gym is another place I’ve thought about. Admittedly, I fall into the train of thought where “people come to the gym to workout and get on their merry way”, myself included.

At my gym, basically 100% of people have their headphones in constantly, so makes the approach a bit more challenging/timing based, I’d assume.

Anyone have any actual success stories from meeting/cold approaching women at a gym that ended in a date/sex/etc? I know it’s been done, but interested in how the interaction itself went.
 

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The gym is another place I’ve thought about. Admittedly, I fall into the train of thought where “people come to the gym to workout and get on their merry way”, myself included.

At my gym, basically 100% of people have their headphones in constantly, so males approach a bit more challenging.

Anyone have any actual success stories from meeting/cold approaching women at a gym that ended in a date/sex/etc? I know it’s been done, but interested in how the interaction itself went.
The last time I had an interaction that led to sex, I just made eye contact with her. I didn't say anything. And I didn't even expect her to react. I was just in my zone making eye contact with women like I usually do. It was her and her friend. Her friend pointed out I was staring and they giggled and walked away. And then out of nowhere she gave me proximity by working out right next to the machine I was at. Normally girls are scared in these situations but I made some suggestions to her about how to work the machine - just as a bait to see if she was genuinely interested in me. She smiled and lit up and I could tell from her body language that she was open/attracted to me. And we just started talking. And I pretty much went into my usual game mode.

And it's very simple. If you do this WHEN the girl is already into you, it's fool proof.

First I throw out a bait. And then after some initial conversational niceties I proceed to the following....

1) Figure out logistics. Ask her who she's there with, If she comes there often. Sometimes a girl's logistics is open for an instant date.
2) Plausible deniability - Mention an activity you like to do. And invite her along. Or if she mentions something she likes to do, I would suggest we do it together "sometime:"
3) Close - If she agrees, I pull out my phone and number close. The number is just an afterthought. It is used for logistics. The goal is not to get her number.

This works 100% of the time IF the chick is already into you.

I have no "game" whatsoever when it comes to creating attraction. I am not even sure I believe in attraction game. Number 1- It's way too much effort. I feel like a dancing monkey. Number 2 - Do I really want to be creative with EVERY chick I meet? It's like being some kind of performer. Number 3 - Does attraction game even work? What if all this time, the chick was already into you and all you had to do was not fvck up? I only approach on ioi's/proximity. And even then, my game is casual and based on subtle pretense.

Most women already know what is going down. They know I am interested. I don't have to go direct and spell it out for her. If you know anything about women, it's when they hit on you, 99.99999% of the time, they will use plausible deniability where they will mention an activity and either invite you or leave a window for you to invite yourself.

There is no way a guy can meet women consistently and not know this. It's universal female game.

I pretty much learned all of my game from what women do to men they are attracted to.

And I challenge anyone to come up with a more simple yet effective approach to women that are already into you. It took me thousands of interactions with women to distill it into logistics/plausible deniability/close.

Yes - I spent an lifetime fvcking up approaches when the chick was already into me.

Keep in mind this is not MY method. And it's probably not even game in the PUA sense. I'm just pointing out what most people do when they are into each other. Figure out each other's logistics, look for an excuse get together, and exchange contact info. It's universal things I've notice that exists in almost every initial romantic interaction.

If I have a name for the method, I call it "How to not fvck up when the chick is already into you" method.

If you can't get ioi's and atttract women with your presence, there's always self improvement. There's no trick or tactic that will magically make you sparkle to women.
 
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@AttackFormation i just showed my method. Now let us see yours so I can apply my sniff sense and see if you have any idea on how to approach women.

If you want to talk about calibration I can go on all day. We can talk about every single conceivable situation with women that you can possibly be in.
 
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