"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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step in the right direction?

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This is the guy I was asking about who doesn't seem to want sex, or isn't in a hurry to get any, but we have a great time together, and do 'everything but' sex.

last week:
Still no sex, but I did ask him, "so do you want to have actual sex one of these days?" and he laughed and nodded and said, "one of these days." not yet, but I'm not fretting about it.


last night
so we went out to and had a nice dinner.
went back to my place and hung out on the couch talking and fooling around a little. just kissing, nothing more.
I finally asked, "are you looking for something casual or something more serious?"
and he didn't know what to say. he finally said, "I don't really think of it like that. when I find someone, I just go with it. I know that's vague. what are you looking for?"
I said, "something more serious."
he said, "how serious? like what?"
I said, "serious enough so I'm not wasting my time. I've done that in the past and don't want to do it again."
he nodded and said, "I can appreciate that. I don't want you to feel like you're wasting your time. I can tell you that I'm not a player."
then I laughed and said I never thought he was.
he asked,"do you have any more burning questions?"
I said, "nope, that's all" and we went back to making out.

any advice?? I think I just have to wait and see what happens. he'll either pull away because I want more than he does, or he'll stick around.:confused:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hey baby

im from the bay area...if you want a real man that will pound you the right way....let me know ;)
 
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From my experience he is either a virgin or has a gf and you don't know about it. He may be feeling weird about taking that next step with you.

ORRRRR he does not find you attractive in that way!

M.A.C.
 
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he's had little experience - thats my best guess.

He's probably shy in that area or has not sealed the deal to many times.

How old is he?
 
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man biatch

this guy is a weakling....wussie fart... queer bait.....step up to a real man.... me
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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He sounds inexperienced and probably younger than you (which in this case it goes hand in hand), though not by much.

If you really like him, you can work on him a bit and take it slow, doing more each time you see him.
 
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Originally posted by 32swf
This is the guy I was asking about who doesn't seem to want sex, or isn't in a hurry to get any, but we have a great time together, and do 'everything but' sex.

last week:
Still no sex, but I did ask him, "so do you want to have actual sex one of these days?" and he laughed and nodded and said, "one of these days." not yet, but I'm not fretting about it.


last night
so we went out to and had a nice dinner.
went back to my place and hung out on the couch talking and fooling around a little. just kissing, nothing more.
I finally asked, "are you looking for something casual or something more serious?"
and he didn't know what to say. he finally said, "I don't really think of it like that. when I find someone, I just go with it. I know that's vague. what are you looking for?"
I said, "something more serious."
he said, "how serious? like what?"
I said, "serious enough so I'm not wasting my time. I've done that in the past and don't want to do it again."
he nodded and said, "I can appreciate that. I don't want you to feel like you're wasting your time. I can tell you that I'm not a player."
then I laughed and said I never thought he was.
he asked,"do you have any more burning questions?"
I said, "nope, that's all" and we went back to making out.

any advice?? I think I just have to wait and see what happens. he'll either pull away because I want more than he does, or he'll stick around.:confused:
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You could always just grab him by the crotch and lead him to the bedroom, tear his clothes off and have your way with him...
 
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