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ArcBound said:
It's good that you have morals and values and it's great that you don't compromise them.

Now understand different people have different morals and values and live with it.
People can think or believe anything they want. But because you have different morals means ****. By your reasoning, I can shoot car drivers who cut me off on a road with a gun, and nobody has a right to question this.

If the "fat epidemic" has lessened good dating prospects, well get over it. Nobody needs sex or dating to be happy, it's not some absolute requirement of life.
 

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Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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ArcBound said:
It's good that you have morals and values and it's great that you don't compromise them.

Now understand different people have different morals and values and live with it.
People can think or believe anything they want. But because you have different morals means ****. By your reasoning, I can shoot car drivers who cut me off on a road with a gun, and nobody has a right to question this.

If the "fat epidemic" has lessened good dating prospects, well get over it. Nobody needs sex or dating to be happy, it's not some absolute requirement of life.
 

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It's funny how people get mad if someone steals a girlfriend. Tell me what law is broken there? and tell me how that relates to someone shooting car drivers?
 

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Young Stallion said:
Girls have unbridled loyalty to a man who she she is with and she is physically ATTRACTED to.

Girls are flaky as hell to a man who she may be with but is NOT physically attracted, but just feels affection for.
I have experienced both with the same girl. Lab results prove the hypothesis accurate.

A flaky girl when she becomes attracted to you really shapes up and does everything she is supposed to. Polite, notifies you if she's late, pays her share, open and communicative... etc.
 

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PrettyBoyAJ said:
It's funny how people get mad if someone steals a girlfriend. Tell me what law is broken there? and tell me how that relates to someone shooting car drivers?
Lol exactly. Second people put all the blame on the man as if he is the only one doing the stealing. They conveniently leave out blame for the woman, who OUT OF HER OWN WILL went and committed adulterous acts with the man. She has a mind too and she chose to go with this "stealer" :rolleyes:
 

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I have mixed feelings about this.

On the one hand, taking someone's girl is a crummy thing to do. But on the other hand, boyfriend/girlfriend is a pretty weak level of commitment. It's not like fiance/spouse.

All hot girls have boyfriends, but some are just placeholders. She will probably dump him in another week, month, or year anyway, depending on what she really thinks about him. She is going to find the highest value guy she can (in her mind). Maybe that's you?

Personally, I think it's crummy to take somebody's girl just to fvck her. But if you really like the girl, and her boyfriend's just a placeholder anyway...

By the way, "Boyfriend Destroyer" has been in seduction literature for a long time, so it's nothing new. I've never heard a pickup guru balk at some girl having a boyfriend. But most of them are probably scuzzbags.
 

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guys who get mad because someone 'stole' their gf are the male equivalent of women who allow themselves to turn into fat, shapeless, unattractive blobs of human flesh who complain when their husbands go chasing hotter, more sexy girls. lol
the fact that you have morals means jack **** to the next guy. he isn't honour bound by some secret code to respect your morals and play fair, all he sees is a hot girl and he makes a move.You guys need a bigger dose of the red pill to get your heads out of the 18th century.
its a cold world out there bro, better step up your game or get ready to be rolled on don't hate the player, hate the game
 

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European-DJ said:
When i talk About 'stealing' a Girl, I refer to guys pursuing girls who are already in relationships and keeps pursuing until they get her.
I am not talking about the girls who are putting them self out there, flirting and whoring with everyone they can, while their man is at home - those girls are pure slvts.

Nevertheless, in my eyes, it is wrong to pursue a girl within a relationship, out of respect to our fellow man.
i think its european values, i'm european too. ;)

to be more serious, i totaly agree with you.
i have a rule: i'll never fvck/dj/game a married woman because i don't want to mess up a wedding.

but a woman who have a BF >>> if the chick make it obvious she is interested in you, than yeah go ahead, but if you are putting all your effort to steal a girl, than it's not moral (for me at least).

i don't care about obesity epidemic, it's something that's not moral, not in my values system.
 
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I don't agree with it and it's not something I'd do.

If other men want to steal other men's women, that's their prerogative. What most men fail to recognise is that the woman they have taken may at some point go off with someone else leave that man on his lonesome. Why would any man want to be with a woman who has shown she is unable to be faithful? I've never understood why some people just cannot see the bigger picture.
 

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PrettyBoyAJ said:
It's funny how people get mad if someone steals a girlfriend. Tell me what law is broken there? and tell me how that relates to someone shooting car drivers?
you're too dim to understand an analogy?

Also, do the opinions of others offend you? it's "funny" why people get mad at that.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ezio said:
guys who get mad because someone 'stole' their gf are the male equivalent of women who allow themselves to turn into fat, shapeless, unattractive blobs of human flesh who complain when their husbands go chasing hotter, more sexy girls. lol
the fact that you have morals means jack **** to the next guy. he isn't honour bound by some secret code to respect your morals and play fair, all he sees is a hot girl and he makes a move.You guys need a bigger dose of the red pill to get your heads out of the 18th century.
its a cold world out there bro, better step up your game or get ready to be rolled on don't hate the player, hate the game
Nah, it's called commitment and the point of relationships in our society.

can somebody steal your gf?
 

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It's not a good analogy because it is not comparable. I bet your one one of the dudes that will go hunting out the dude that "stole" your girlfriend. It isn't his fault! It is more your fault for choosing a wack broad. Choose the right girl and make sure you keep your game crisp and you won't ever have this problem.
 

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PrettyBoyAJ said:
It's not a good analogy because it is not comparable. I bet your one one of the dudes that will go hunting out the dude that "stole" your girlfriend. It isn't his fault! It is more your fault for choosing a wack broad. Choose the right girl and make sure you keep your game crisp and you won't ever have this problem.
Even though I have not had this issue while having a gf, It defiantly annoyed me when other guys - perfectly aware of the fact that she is taken - hit on her (never showed that it annoyed me though).

I think the main reason is that I would not let myself do it towards another dude....
Or else, it might just be that I have an assumption of girls in LTR's being 'nongameable' and therefor doesn't dare gaming them, but again, it could be my moral all by itself '
 

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European-DJ said:
Even though I have not had this issue while having a gf, It defiantly annoyed me when other guys - perfectly aware of the fact that she is taken - hit on her (never showed that it annoyed me though).

I think the main reason is that I would not let myself do it towards another dude....
Or else, it might just be that I have an assumption of girls in LTR's being 'nongameable' and therefor doesn't dare gaming them, but again, it could be my moral all by itself '
You are annoyed of guys trying to get your girlfriend because of territory instinct not because of moral, if your gf was an obstacle to stay with her better looking friend you wouldnt mind those guys that much.
 

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I agree European DJ.. But I also agree with the fact that if someone can steal her, then she wasn't your girl.

I personally won't be that guy though. There have been many times when girls with boyfriends have come on to me, but I just shrug it off or play stupid. I'm not going to give that girl what she wants UNTIL she dumps the BF.
 

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So this site isn't about improving yourself, having class and being a better man but is instead about being a sleazeball? Think I came to the wrong place.
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
I agree European DJ.. But I also agree with the fact that if someone can steal her, then she wasn't your girl.

I personally won't be that guy though. There have been many times when girls with boyfriends have come on to me, but I just shrug it off or play stupid. I'm not going to give that girl what she wants UNTIL she dumps the BF.

I totaly agree with the fact that if she is "Stealable", then she wasn't worth it.

But pursuing a girl in a relationship, and really going after her even though she haven't come on to you - that is unrespectfull in my opinion.

So i completly agree with you Alex DeLarge!
 

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Old Irish proverb: If it's a potato, then pick it.


Simple fact is that you can rant and rave as much as like about how you think it is wrong to steal other guy's girls, but the woman is ALWAYS complicit in it.

And it happens all the time - girls normally swing from one guy to another anyway, so there is often some overlap.

I've done it (all short-term) with both a wife and girlfriends of other dudes, both guys I didn't know and one I did, and both a so called "quality girl" and others who probably wouldn't be rated as quality (although some pretty hot).

Can happen to any girl if the circumstances are right (or wrong, depending on how you look at) and the attraction is there.

Female hypergamy at work. Read more Rollo.
 

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ilikecharlene said:
Nah, it's called commitment and the point of relationships in our society.

can somebody steal your gf?
can someone steal my gf? the answer is yes but more importantly the question u should ask is do i care that someone can steal my gf..the answer to that is an emphatic no!! if the girl am with wants to swing branches, well thats her lose.
 
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So this site isn't about improving yourself, having class and being a better man but is instead about being a sleazeball? Think I came to the wrong place.
Don't let a few posters put you off this forum. There are several fantastic gems hidden on the forum under all the sh*te that's posted. Find those gems, embrace them and then work on being the type of man you want to be.
 

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