Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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I must admit I was surprised that so many guys on this forum 'steal' other guys girls.

What I can recall when reading the posts from pre-2010, the forum was about embracing manhood and being a man, helping other men and be the better person.

Lately I have notices many guys asking for tips on how to 'steal' other men's girls, and even more guys give great advice and share their own experience with stealing girls.

I don't know if my parents raised me wrong - they probably did, or else I would not be on this forum - but I live by the 'do to others as you would like them to do to you' at least when it comes to my basic acting towards other men (I have Lost to much respect for women, to be acting the same way towards them).

Let me know guys, what are your pov on stealing fellow men's girls?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Who Dares Win

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What changed from the past is the fact that due to obesity and entitled mentality the appetible girls are fewer and fewer and more likely to be already engaged to someone else, its not a matter of being morally bad but simply a necessity.

Just keep in mind that something is to get physical with someone else girl while a different one is taking her away from him.

And about your parents stop listen at them they just want you to play it safe,have a boring plain life and work a crappy 8-14 job behind a desk better yet with the same average girl you have to pedestal and keep her happy since she will be the only source of pvssy for you.
Love them but dont take their advice about life choices.
 

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I don't do it, I consider it non-decent do to so.

What changed from the past is the fact that due to obesity and entitled mentality the appetible girls are fewer and fewer and more likely to be already engaged to someone else, its not a matter of being morally bad but simply a necessity.
That's "reasoning", if I ever heard it.
 

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I agree with this, but is it any different from a girl looking for her next LTR whilst still in one with somebody else?
 

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MaudGrimes said:
I agree with this, but is it any different from a girl looking for her next LTR whilst still in one with somebody else?
I am honest when I say I would not go for such a girl - when she gets tired of you, she will once again be looking for a new guy while still in a relationship with you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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if i didn't know the guy, then sure i would do it.

if i knew the guy, i wouldn't... one exception. Paul "****face" leone. my enemy
 

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Packers2010 said:
if i didn't know the guy, then sure i would do it.

if i knew the guy, i wouldn't... one exception. Paul "****face" leone. my enemy
For mé, not knowing him makes no difference - you could miss out on a genuinely great new friend because of a 'cheatung' woman
 

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Let me clarify my previous post, when we get a girl from someone else she is not considered long-term material after accounting her past behaviour.
She is more than fine to be a short thing or a fvck buddy.
 

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You got it all wrong from the onset. You're portraying girls as the victims, a common mistake for most guys in our day and age. you don't 'steal' anyone, girls are not shop items you just pick up and run with. if a girl is in a relationship you present her with a better set of options than she currently has, better sex, more money, more excitement etc. You don't point a gun to her head and command her to dump her boyfriend or else. she has to make a conscious decision to leave the person she's with to be with you even if its only for a single night. no matter what she might say, its still a decision she has to make and you can bet she'll go with the option which is most beneficial to her at that particular time. if anyone is a victim here, its the guy who falls victim to a female's fleeting urges, warped sense of entitlement and the poor excuse of a rationalisation that goes along with it. i don't know if this is what rollo refers to as hypergamy but you should read his blog to get a better understanding of the female mind. There is also a thread on the forum about girls always wanting the new guys, u should read that as well.
guys are advised not to get emotionally attached to girls because she might leave the moment the next guy comes with better bag of goodies. in LTR you have to keep your game tight, never slip up, never stop improving yourself and never become complacent. at this point in my life if another guy was to 'steal' my girl away from me its all meh! because wth, i just charge it to the game and move on with my life. no girl is worth all that effort that goes into trying to win back. I only draw the line with married women and gf of friends, all others are good to go
 

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European-DJ said:
I must admit I was surprised that so many guys on this forum 'steal' other guys girls.

What I can recall when reading the posts from pre-2010, the forum was about embracing manhood and being a man, helping other men and be the better person.

Lately I have notices many guys asking for tips on how to 'steal' other men's girls, and even more guys give great advice and share their own experience with stealing girls.

I don't know if my parents raised me wrong - they probably did, or else I would not be on this forum - but I live by the 'do to others as you would like them to do to you' at least when it comes to my basic acting towards other men (I have Lost to much respect for women, to be acting the same way towards them).

Let me know guys, what are your pov on stealing fellow men's girls?
Stealing another mans woman makes you less of a man in my opinion, as well as a total ****. A man should have class.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MM92 said:
Stealing another mans woman makes you less of a man in my opinion, as well as a total ****. A man should have class.
You talk the same way of men who lived in the world before the fat epidemic and the facebook/cellphone ego madness.
My father would probably say the same thing as you, right after he would call my mother who would answer in few seconds and would ask her to bring him a beer before leaving to work, only to have her coming with a respectful and grateful smile for being him the breadwinner and fixer in the family.

Lets imagine that we are 10 thirsty man and there are 10 glasses of water of which 5 are filled with polluted water...would you feel bad to get someone else fresh water?

And keep in mind that unlike the engaged ,girls the glasses in the example dont usually collaborate.
 

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ezio said:
You got it all wrong from the onset. You're portraying girls as the victims, a common mistake for most guys in our day and age. you don't 'steal' anyone, girls are not shop items you just pick up and run with. if a girl is in a relationship you present her with a better set of options than she currently has, better sex, more money, more excitement etc. You don't point a gun to her head and command her to dump her boyfriend or else. she has to make a conscious decision to leave the person she's with to be with you even if its only for a single night. no matter what she might say, its still a decision she has to make and you can bet she'll go with the option which is most beneficial to her at that particular time. if anyone is a victim here, its the guy who falls victim to a female's fleeting urges, warped sense of entitlement and the poor excuse of a rationalisation that goes along with it. i don't know if this is what rollo refers to as hypergamy but you should read his blog to get a better understanding of the female mind. There is also a thread on the forum about girls always wanting the new guys, u should read that as well.

Guys are advised not to get emotionally attached to girls because she might leave the moment the next guy comes with better bag of goodies. in LTR you have to keep your game tight, never slip up, never stop improving yourself and never become complacent. at this point in my life if another guy was to 'steal' my girl away from me its all meh! because wth, i just charge it to the game and move on with my life. no girl is worth all that effort that goes into trying to win back. I only draw the line with married women and gf of friends, all others are good to go
I completely agree with you on this one. I never see it as the girls fault at all, I see it as their SO's fault for not being able to keep them. Clearly you are a much better option, so why wouldn't she go for you?

By far the biggest rebuttal I've heard is that "If you take her from her boyfriend, what's to stop her from leaving you some point down the line?"

Well, absolutely nothing! But if you follow the message that permeats through these forums of being a Don Juan, why in the hell would she ever leave you? If you make yourself consistently the best and most exciting option, she has absolutely no reason to run off with another guy unless he's even better than you. And if you keep improving yourself and playing it right, that's very unlikely to happen.
 

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Audiophile said:
I completely agree with you on this one. I never see it as the girls fault at all, I see it as their SO's fault for not being able to keep them. Clearly you are a much better option, so why wouldn't she go for you?

By far the biggest rebuttal I've heard is that "If you take her from her boyfriend, what's to stop her from leaving you some point down the line?"

Well, absolutely nothing! But if you follow the message that permeats through these forums of being a Don Juan, why in the hell would she ever leave you? If you make yourself consistently the best and most exciting option, she has absolutely no reason to run off with another guy unless he's even better than you. And if you keep improving yourself and playing it right, that's very unlikely to happen.

When i talk About 'stealing' a Girl, I refer to guys pursuing girls who are already in relationships and keeps pursuing until they get her.
I am not talking about the girls who are putting them self out there, flirting and whoring with everyone they can, while their man is at home - those girls are pure slvts.

Nevertheless, in my eyes, it is wrong to pursue a girl within a relationship, out of respect to our fellow man.
 

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It takes two to tango...no such thing as stealing...she has to let herself be stolen as well.

And I agree, with the obesity epidemic, bad economy, and continuously inflating ego and sense of entitlement that women have...competition is getting tough. You have to stake your claim and and make sure her eyes never wander.
 

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It's good that you have morals and values and it's great that you don't compromise them.

Now understand different people have different morals and values and live with it.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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ArcBound said:
It's good that you have morals and values and it's great that you don't compromise them.

Now understand different people have different morals and values and live with it.
I respect other people's opinions, just want to have a healthy discussion - at least I will get a new perspective on things, maybe i'll even change my mind.
 

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Me personally,

If a girl chooses she chooses. I don't care if she has a boyfriend or not. I've scooped many girls with dudes. But most of the time it takes extra work to scoop a girl from her boyfriend. and that same amount of work can be focused on many other things. Such as getting single girls.
 

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Alle_Gory said:
If someone steals your girl she wasn't yours to begin with.
Absolutely agreed.

Girls have unbridled loyalty to a man who she she is with and she is physically ATTRACTED to.

Girls are flaky as hell to a man who she may be with but is NOT physically attracted, but just feels affection for.

This about sums it up.
 

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I know that if a drunk girl falls into your arms, presses her tits against you, says: "My boyfriend's on holiday" and looks you deep in the eyes., you close the deal.

But what if a girl has a chump boyfriend merely for the benefits of attention/relationship status and she really wants a real man who knows how to treat her(you)?

A friend of mine has one-itis for a girl and thinks he's happy, but he's actually a peon of hers. I know that if I stole his girlfriend he would be happier in the long run, but he might damn-well kill himself, or me, lol. I'd never try that, it's not worth the trouble. But if I didn't know the guy I would.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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