ok so i met this chick at the club and we hung out and we ended up going back to her hotel room but she was like "sleep on your side! don't hog the bed" and I wanted to fvck her but she was facing the window and her back was towards me. I just put my arm around her but nothing happened. I didn't want to just move my hand toward her pvssy or anything. What would you usually say like would you just tell her "im horny" or something where she would at least do stuff back? she was lying there like she was dead or just waiting to fall asleep. I didn't even get to kiss her. Do you just initiate the kiss? How do you tell if she'll be ok with it or not? I didn't want her to kick me out of the room for trying to make a move on her and have her feel uncomfortable.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
stayed at her hotel room, slept in her bed but didn't do ****.
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
dannyegg4575
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why are you asking now? it's over. dumbass
You got a girl next to you in bed and you doing a thing? what's wrong with you?
Next time call me over, I'll show you how it's done. You can take the bathroom.
You got a girl next to you in bed and you doing a thing? what's wrong with you?
Next time call me over, I'll show you how it's done. You can take the bathroom.
dannyegg4575
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OMG!!! you want me to teach you how take off your pants too?
yea ive been there before. You just gotta make a move man. Really, if she not interested, she'll let you know, she'll probably just say she's tired, she wont kick you out. you have nothing to lose, if you snooze ur gonna lose anyways, so u might as well try. Ask her to play Just the Tip! j/k
u did the right thing by putting ur arm around her but u should of escalated things more. if u did it slowly im sure she wouldve been responsive. like breathing on her neck, lightly touching her back. u know the ordeal. and if she said no, no big deal, at least u tried.
u did the right thing by putting ur arm around her but u should of escalated things more. if u did it slowly im sure she wouldve been responsive. like breathing on her neck, lightly touching her back. u know the ordeal. and if she said no, no big deal, at least u tried.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I just didn't think she would be interested and I would've pissed her off. just from the body language I was given because she wasn't facing me when laying down, her back was towards me. she told me to "stay on your side of the bed" which means she probably didn't even want me getting close to her? but she didn't do shyt when I put my arm around her like take it off or anything but it was too late already.
yea but i understand that if she says no at least i tried. so next time. i'll just go for it. if i get shut down then just fvck it. it's worth the gamble. i already got that far.
yea but i understand that if she says no at least i tried. so next time. i'll just go for it. if i get shut down then just fvck it. it's worth the gamble. i already got that far.
dannyegg4575
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first off, how did you get to stay in bed with her with that attitude to begin with? pray tell
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ok, i'm acting like an idiot tonight. listen bro, next time, if there is a next time, just do it.
It's that simple. As long as the girl is not saying, "NO", you have the green light to go. simple.
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ok, i'm acting like an idiot tonight. listen bro, next time, if there is a next time, just do it.
It's that simple. As long as the girl is not saying, "NO", you have the green light to go. simple.
iqqi
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You definately shouldn't have just went right for the goodies. Lol!
When you saw that she wasn't resistant to physical contact (when you put your arm around her), you should have escalated to massaging and gently caressing less private areas like her back, her waist, and her hips. Then throw in some light kissing on the back of her neck, and some breathing on her neck. This should get her aroused, and you can escalate into more third base territory like boobies and other areas (wink wink), then you should be in (literally).
Dammit, what is that saying? Man is fire, woman is water, or something. You have to get the water slowly boiling. Then you can cook!
When you saw that she wasn't resistant to physical contact (when you put your arm around her), you should have escalated to massaging and gently caressing less private areas like her back, her waist, and her hips. Then throw in some light kissing on the back of her neck, and some breathing on her neck. This should get her aroused, and you can escalate into more third base territory like boobies and other areas (wink wink), then you should be in (literally).
Dammit, what is that saying? Man is fire, woman is water, or something. You have to get the water slowly boiling. Then you can cook!
iqqi
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DonJuan11 said:
Nearly 900 posts and you wouldn't know an ASD if it slapped you in your face. Or told you to follow it to its hotel room, but sleep on your side of the bed.
To the DJ Bible with you!
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
MikeYikes122
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When it comes to dealing with women, the cardinal rule is to always be aggressive. The situation with you, this chick and the hotel room is a perfect example where the girl was looking for you to be aggressive, but you questioned yourself and failed.
It's like PHAT told you, she wanted you to make a move. Think about it logically. A girl invites you into her hotel room in the middle of the night, she's not having you over to eat milk and cookies and play board games. She wants to hook up. It's up to you, as the guy, to take control of the situation.
The No. 1 rule is to always be aggressive and take control. A woman likes a confident man, and taking control of a situation is the perfect way to show confidence.
It's like PHAT told you, she wanted you to make a move. Think about it logically. A girl invites you into her hotel room in the middle of the night, she's not having you over to eat milk and cookies and play board games. She wants to hook up. It's up to you, as the guy, to take control of the situation.
The No. 1 rule is to always be aggressive and take control. A woman likes a confident man, and taking control of a situation is the perfect way to show confidence.
decadentdestruction
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wow , some how she invites you back to her place ?
* to sleep with her?
bro that girl wanted action , and satisfaction
heres what I would of done, (by the way feel free to correct me)
jumped in bed , you already had your hand around her ?
god gave u another arm man ! and another hand ,
I would of used my fingers and stroked her belly her side, and use my fingers to walk around her stomach ,
then have her turn, breathe on her neck .
then boom, full make out mode... + fore play + touching+spanking= sexy time
you have to be agressive , with girls now these days ,
you have the **** so make the rules.
how did u manage to go back to her place?
did u and her previously make out, dirty dancing , touch in naughty places?
thats what I don't get ...
but any how those are my 2 cents....
* to sleep with her?
bro that girl wanted action , and satisfaction
heres what I would of done, (by the way feel free to correct me)
jumped in bed , you already had your hand around her ?
god gave u another arm man ! and another hand ,
I would of used my fingers and stroked her belly her side, and use my fingers to walk around her stomach ,
then have her turn, breathe on her neck .
then boom, full make out mode... + fore play + touching+spanking= sexy time
you have to be agressive , with girls now these days ,
you have the **** so make the rules.
how did u manage to go back to her place?
did u and her previously make out, dirty dancing , touch in naughty places?
thats what I don't get ...
but any how those are my 2 cents....
You are officially her cuddle mate.. lol.. just playin with ya.. next time do something before you officialy get your friend badge.. listen to Iqqi thoughbaurman said:
..... YA.. do it wrongly and the water will instantly put you out.. :crackup:iqqi said:
ready123
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I agree with iqqi, it's just asd behavior
you need to learn how to escalate. and it's not so much being aggressive as it is knowing the proper way to lead her toward sex (IE you start fumbling for her pvssy right away, you blow yourself out). learn how to escalate slowly and naturally
dicarlo escalation ladder helps
you need to learn how to escalate. and it's not so much being aggressive as it is knowing the proper way to lead her toward sex (IE you start fumbling for her pvssy right away, you blow yourself out). learn how to escalate slowly and naturally
dicarlo escalation ladder helps
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Killer_Demo
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if she was with me i would have done this........i would have talked to her and caressed her for a min then out of the blue say "you wouldnt be mad if i said i wanted u right now?" then when she gives the :nervous: just put a fat kiss on her.
theunflushables
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Was she blonde? Maybe she thought you guys were "sleeping together":crackup:
DonGorgon
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You chickened out... lost confidence.. DONT EVER DO THAT AGAIN..