"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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starting over

Nin64

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guys im having trouble starting over this is the story... there was this girl before i learnt the way of the don juan's ;) i was totally AFC with her kissed her ass called her non-stop, i bascially lived for her, now i've learnt the way i wanna get her properly, is their any possible way i can start over with her like from new or do i have to just next her any suggestions would be aprecited cheers

Nin64
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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CLOONEY

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Originally posted by gOLDENBoy83
According to the Ladder Theory, you're most probably on the "LJBF" ladder and it's very hard if not almost impossible (especially for an AFC or rAFC) to make a ladder jumb to the "potential sex mate" ladder.

However, you don't have anything to lose if you change the way you treat her radically. From my limited knowledge I'd suggest to use neg hits and show here in general that you are a bit too good for her.

If it doesn't work, next her and keep looking for other girls.
Good advice! Goldenboy, your coming along nicely!

P.S Goldenboy, forgot to ask, why the nic? R u an Oscar De La Hoya fan? Thats the only time I have heard Goldenboy before?
 

FratAndDiddy

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hey nin, if you have a new approach, why bother with her?
she will always remember you for the chump you used to be.

you have new skills now, so but them to good use. once a chickie gets the ball in her court, you never get it back. NEVER
 

NatureGuy

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It can be done Nin, but it's not easy. It works best when alot of time has passed (often years) and she see's you differently now because of intervening experiences.
In any case, you attract her with the good things she remembers about you (most people forget the bad pretty quickly) but then you must apply your new standards of conduct (more DJ like) to make things work. Believe me, she'll like you alot better without the desperation and clinging !
 
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