"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Starting from the Beginning.....

Ben MacDui

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Hello everyone,

I only recently discovered the seduction community and sosuave.net, and although i have yet to completely make up my mind about it I am very interested in learning more and using your advice to help my own predicament.

I'm in my late twenties and have been single for just under five years, and totally celibate for the past three, and I'm unhappy to say that I have completely lost the plot when it comes to speaking to and seducing women. I feel that I have to start from the absolute basics to change the situation, and considering the vast amount of fairly advanced information on the forum and the DJ Bible I don't even know where to start. Right now I admit that I find the basics difficult, although I don't think that this rules me out of overcoming them eventually.

Also, probably like some of you have had at one point I have a few hangups that hinder my confidence and approach. One of them is about my looks and body (which I am slowly beginning to change through physical exercise and some interests such as rock climbing and hillwalking - hence the name) and the other is about "added value". I live and work in London, and the level of male competition for attractive women (whether you are up against Australian "surfers-dudes", Oxbridge-educated investment bankers or trendy arty types who wear the latest designer clothes) is pretty immense, and don't the ladies know it! It's sometimes hard to see yourself standing out against all of that.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Ben Macdui
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Interceptor

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Ben, Start off with the Book of Pook.
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/The Book of Pook.pdf
Absolutely essential IMHO.
This is what you should start off first.

Nxt, IMHO go to this website and listen to every single mp3 download, and save them on your PC:


http://www.hypnotica.org/privatedownloads.htm

Listen to this:


http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/audio.asp

Look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYP0CFwTTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0oW6DxmgFw





After that, write down the list of goals you want to accomplish in your life.

DO NOT SKIP OVER THIS PART.
Many people do not write down their goals. This is incorrect!
Unfortunately, they spend too much time and energy keeping them saved in their minds, and not "solidified."
Write them down. "Dump" them out of your mind and put them in your hand.
Empower yourself to reralize your dreams, aspirations, ambitions, and desires.

Then, start looking up the forums, and free resources from the following:

Zan Perrion

David DeAngelo

Mystery Method/Venusian Arts

Doc Love

Real World Seduction

Hypnotica

Michael W Dating Wizard


Wayne "Juggler" Elise


Good luck.
 

jophil28

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You could always transplant yourself "down-under" - the women down here are a little F**ked up but they are worthwhile for the most part.

Australia is more like the USA that the UK - it is open and boisterous.
However, there are still a few "surfer-dudes" down here , but they usually do not operate in the cities.. You got any class? this is the place to be.
Aussie women are like the coy/sweet girls from the midwest combined with the personality of SO Cal babes....
BTW ..OZ population is 52% female.. YEP! - man shortage.
 
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decades

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Continue to read the "DJ" literature. Stop comparing yourself to others. Recognize your own distinct value and realize that there are and will be plenty of women out there for you to enjoy. You have to understand that women Want Men and they will want you once you start developing confidence as a man.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ben MacDui

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Thanks a lot for your replies. I will certainly get started!

As for moving to Australia, unfortunately it's not likely to happen for a while but I will bear that in mind!
 

Jukeboxhero

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Interceptor said:
Nxt, IMHO go to this website and listen to every single mp3 download, and save them on your PC:


http://www.hypnotica.org/privatedownloads.htm

Wait....WTH is that hypnotica.org stuff? I listened to the first 5 min and it's uhh...really kinda weird.

Also, I'm guessing the Real Social Dynamics thing is just audio, right? Or is there a way to see the audio too?
 
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