"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Starting from the Beginning.....

Ben MacDui

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Hello everyone,

I only recently discovered the seduction community and sosuave.net, and although i have yet to completely make up my mind about it I am very interested in learning more and using your advice to help my own predicament.

I'm in my late twenties and have been single for just under five years, and totally celibate for the past three, and I'm unhappy to say that I have completely lost the plot when it comes to speaking to and seducing women. I feel that I have to start from the absolute basics to change the situation, and considering the vast amount of fairly advanced information on the forum and the DJ Bible I don't even know where to start. Right now I admit that I find the basics difficult, although I don't think that this rules me out of overcoming them eventually.

Also, probably like some of you have had at one point I have a few hangups that hinder my confidence and approach. One of them is about my looks and body (which I am slowly beginning to change through physical exercise and some interests such as rock climbing and hillwalking - hence the name) and the other is about "added value". I live and work in London, and the level of male competition for attractive women (whether you are up against Australian "surfers-dudes", Oxbridge-educated investment bankers or trendy arty types who wear the latest designer clothes) is pretty immense, and don't the ladies know it! It's sometimes hard to see yourself standing out against all of that.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Ben Macdui
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Interceptor

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Ben, Start off with the Book of Pook.
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/Downloads/The Book of Pook.pdf
Absolutely essential IMHO.
This is what you should start off first.

Nxt, IMHO go to this website and listen to every single mp3 download, and save them on your PC:


http://www.hypnotica.org/privatedownloads.htm

Listen to this:


http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/audio.asp

Look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esYP0CFwTTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0oW6DxmgFw





After that, write down the list of goals you want to accomplish in your life.

DO NOT SKIP OVER THIS PART.
Many people do not write down their goals. This is incorrect!
Unfortunately, they spend too much time and energy keeping them saved in their minds, and not "solidified."
Write them down. "Dump" them out of your mind and put them in your hand.
Empower yourself to reralize your dreams, aspirations, ambitions, and desires.

Then, start looking up the forums, and free resources from the following:

Zan Perrion

David DeAngelo

Mystery Method/Venusian Arts

Doc Love

Real World Seduction

Hypnotica

Michael W Dating Wizard


Wayne "Juggler" Elise


Good luck.
 

jophil28

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You could always transplant yourself "down-under" - the women down here are a little F**ked up but they are worthwhile for the most part.

Australia is more like the USA that the UK - it is open and boisterous.
However, there are still a few "surfer-dudes" down here , but they usually do not operate in the cities.. You got any class? this is the place to be.
Aussie women are like the coy/sweet girls from the midwest combined with the personality of SO Cal babes....
BTW ..OZ population is 52% female.. YEP! - man shortage.
 
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decades

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Continue to read the "DJ" literature. Stop comparing yourself to others. Recognize your own distinct value and realize that there are and will be plenty of women out there for you to enjoy. You have to understand that women Want Men and they will want you once you start developing confidence as a man.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Ben MacDui

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Thanks a lot for your replies. I will certainly get started!

As for moving to Australia, unfortunately it's not likely to happen for a while but I will bear that in mind!
 

Jukeboxhero

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Interceptor said:
Nxt, IMHO go to this website and listen to every single mp3 download, and save them on your PC:


http://www.hypnotica.org/privatedownloads.htm

Wait....WTH is that hypnotica.org stuff? I listened to the first 5 min and it's uhh...really kinda weird.

Also, I'm guessing the Real Social Dynamics thing is just audio, right? Or is there a way to see the audio too?
 
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