"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Starting a Boot Camp Friday
- Thread starter J2K
- Start date
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
The Bartender
Senior Don Juan
JT47319
Master Don Juan
Assuming that you guys are going from a ZERO COLD APPROACH EXPERIENCE, open up about a dozen sets. Mixed AND non-mixed sets. ANY opener will do, but if push comes to shove, ask them who lies more, guys or girls. Do this at LEAST one week, but preferably TWO. 12 sets
a night for two weeks and most (but probably not all) of your approach phobia will have diminished.
As you start accumulating experience, you'll progress beyond the open and engage in FLUFF TALK. Fluff talk is CRAP, but something you'll go through during your first few weeks of experimentation. Useless fluff talk will more often hurt the sarge while on occasion may help out (though I wouldn't depend on it).
PROGRESS THE SARGE. Always have something tee'ed up in your mind that you want to talk about and DIRECT the conversation to YOUR CHOOSING. If some thread of conversation opens up that isn't beneficial to your sarge, SHUT IT DOWN and move on.
You'll want to demonstrate high attraction and that you are of high value while later on developing rapport and connection with your target.
Remember, GIRLS ARE VALIDATION SEEKING, EMOTION JUNKIES. Be their PIMP and DEALER.
DJmonster
Don Juan
I've got a college orientation on saturday, so I'm going to get as many numbers as I can from that.
Already got one number earlier this week, HB 7, tall blonde:
-she was working at Cosco checking people for Cosco cards. I was waiting for a couple friends outside, didn't have a card, so I pretended to try and sneak past her. She stopped me, says she wished she could let me in, but couldn't, so I say ok, I'll just hang out till my friends get out. I turn to walk away, then I turn around and say, "by the way, are you single?" She says she is with a smile, I say so am I, then I fluff talked her for a little bit, before my friends come out, then I got her number. I repeated it back to her differently than she told me, and she corrected me (I remember reading a tip on here about doing that to see if she's giving you a fake number)
So JT47319, you say fluff talk is bad? Don't try and establish rapport until later? I guess that would make it easier, but I don't see why fluff and rapport would hurt.
JT47319
Master Don Juan
It is boring conversation, typically fact based. Women are story tellers who describe their emotions and feelings. They don't feel associated with typical fluff talk.
Rapport and comfort based conversation is wholly different from fluff talk. With fluff talk, you don't know what kind of emotions you're eliciting from her, you're not deriving any kind of useful information, and you're not displaying high value.
It has no purpose and doesn't progress the sarge, unless by accident (you HAPPEN to tell a funny story during fluff).
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
The Bartender
Senior Don Juan
JT47319
Master Don Juan
Usually it's a good opener because it ALSO elicits an emotional reaction from the audience. If you want, you could go on about Chris Rock because he does something similar ("Women tell the BIGGEST LIES! Like... That's your BABY!").
The key is, once you opened, PROGRESS THE SARGE. Hit them up beyond FLUFF TALK.