"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Stall / Ignore tactic used by chicks

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This is more annoying then a straight "no" from a chick when asking her out.

They either just stall or act as if you never actually said anything even though you are like right there....two feet from their ears.

Now logically I know what a stall/ignore means. It's as good as a no. But if I accept a stall/ignore as an answer then it just feels like I lost some self-respect.

If I "push" the matter and demand an answer or say something that shows I'm pissed off then that makes it seem like I can't handle rejection.

The last time I pointed out to the chick she was stalling and just said that I respect an either yes or no answer. She then said "probably not". I just let it go at that but what I really wanted to say was "look you idiot, I just told you to either give me a yes or no answer, are you braindead?".
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Schmuck said:
...Now logically I know what a stall/ignore means. It's as good as a no. But if I accept a stall/ignore as an answer then it just feels like I lost some self-respect.

If I "push" the matter and demand an answer or say something that shows I'm pissed off then that makes it seem like I can't handle rejection.
Jumpin' Jehosafats, why don't you just recend the offer??!!! You have the right to say "Nevermind, I've changed my mind."
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Jumpin' Jehosafats, why don't you just recend the offer??!!! You have the right to say "Nevermind, I've changed my mind."
lol never occurred to me
 

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DJDamage said:
Stalling is another indicator of low interest by these girls.

Accept stalling as a rejection and move on.
But the whole point is if you just walk away and accept the stall/ignore as an answer ..... you are walking away with your tail between your legs. There has to be some sort of reply that has a balance between self respect and an offensive attack. If it wasn't for social norms I'd unleash a full scale assault complete with bombers and tanks. But that's just cuz I'm unstable.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Danger said:
I would argue that pushing for a real answer is a demonstration of lower value. This is why it's soooooo important to get the proper IOI's first before hitting on a girl. Or better yet, playing her well enough to where she chases you.
Where's the push line?
 

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When you walk away, the power shifts back to you and you move on to the next girl. If you let this hang over your head like a bad smell then its obvious that you lost because you let it get to you.

Look everyone gets rejected sometimes and you are going to have to accept that this is part of the game.
 

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DJDamage said:
When you walk away, the power shifts back to you and you move on to the next girl.
I'm betting that the fear of scarcity keeps them from walking away, even if it does save face.
 

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I actually agree with this. She could also be testing interest as well, If a girl says "ehhh maybe" kind of attitude, I start barking like an angry dog to show that am interested and if she responds with a "I dunno" kind of answer I'll just flake it off.

Just because a girl says yes to any dates does not equate I am really interested in the real you

Schmuck said:
But the whole point is if you just walk away and accept the stall/ignore as an answer ..... you are walking away with your tail between your legs. There has to be some sort of reply that has a balance between self respect and an offensive attack. If it wasn't for social norms I'd unleash a full scale assault complete with bombers and tanks. But that's just cuz I'm unstable.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Jumpin' Jehosafats, why don't you just recend the offer??!!! You have the right to say "Nevermind, I've changed my mind."
That's Money. I've responded to such situation with something very similar.

Don't push for a real answer. What's the point, you'll get a lie anyhow. All you need to know is that if the answer isn't an enthusiastic 'yes', she has low interest level.

I was in this situation a few weeks ago number-closing this girl to ask her out. I noticed that she changed her state & was just going through the motion & was mumbling something about being busy & sh!t & may not be available yadda yadda. I stopped it right there, said something like "You know what, I'm also a very busy man and I understand what it's like to have other priorities in life. I wanted to get to know you, but we shouldn't waste each other's time then. Don't worry about this (pointing at the number entry I just got) I won't bother you." Said my byebye and walked away, deleting the number. Straight away I was dancing with other girls and having my fun. She chased me for that whole night afterwards asking me for a dance but I politely ignored her.

Girls can take their silly hard to get game and shove it.
 

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I have had this one a from a couple of chic's

"Sure but not until (such and such a day), I'm really busy/work alot from now until then, but I'll let you know when I have free time"

and this one

"Sure, but just let me figure out what I'm doing (on proposed day)/if I'm working, and we can go from there"
 
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