"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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SS/PUA or any other site with "advice" on chicks. Misery loves company?

Naughty Ninja

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Do any of you ever feel at times that on most forums SS included that some of the "advice" given by certain posters/"Gurus" has more to do with their own negativity/ misery loves company/ lack of success rather than really trying to be helpful to your situation?

I realize that most questions asked often require the not what a person wants to hear truth for their own good, but do any of you ever feel some posters on here or other sites would rather keep the misery loves company "truth" in their "advice" given for the "advice" givers OWN sake? (Like a crab in the bucket mentality.)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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TillTheEndOfTime

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People like to have their ideas validated by others, it makes them feel better about their own situations. Some have already made up their minds and don't want to hear anything to the contrary.

I personally just go by my own experiences and do honestly try to assess a situation without being too biased. I am generally not a negative person and sometimes I say something negative that I feel with the hope that someone will contradict me and give me a different idea. I sometimes want someone to show me that I might just be wrong when I get into a negative/defeatist mindset.

Some people just love being miserable.
 

VladPatton

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I think overall the advice given here is from guys who went through crazy experiences and the bulk of it being "hey man, watch out, don't do this because THIS will happen, and as a result THAT will be inevitable".

Some posters are negative towards women and I don't blame them. A lot of us got burned for what, being too 'nice'? You just gotta keep an open mind and use what is helpful for YOU.

We already are commiserating in our woman-hunting quests just by being here in the first place. That in itself is the therapy.
 

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We are social learners... and misery is definitely contagious. But should this not be merged with your last thread ?
 

The Gambler

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I think a person has to be here a while and do a bit of reading so they can learn the backgrounds of the members posting here. It really does make a difference. None of us have the exact same story to tell, though many of us share similar experiences on any given topic. I personally try to post on topics where I think I might have a clue.

I read some posts and wonder to myself if the writer is trying to be truly helpful, or is just giving a reflexive negative reaction based on his limited experience on the subject. A perfect example of this are the guys who are convinced you'll never find a decent woman in the entire United States.... Ummm... OK...??? Maybe THEY haven't had any luck finding a good woman in the U.S., but I and many others have.

Advice seekers need to do their own research to find their happy medium. I think it's just as hazardous to be all the way on the naive side as it is to be on the jaded side.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Most important is to not be brainwashed by anything on this site. You WERE someone before you came here and to simply "Tyler Durden" what this site encompasses will ultimately deplete your true self. I take advice on this board with a grain of salt, sure there may be some bitterness in the posts, but it does not negate the effectiveness. This site has shown me invaluable perspectives on life and I apply them accordingly.

In simpler terms:

What works for Brad Pitt, won't work for Marilyn Manson.
 
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