"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Spinning plates while in a LTR.. Yay or Nay?

Should you spin plates in a LTR?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • No

    Votes: 8 53.3%

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AlphaGhost

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Do you think spinning plates in a LTR is acceptable?

Do you just do it for the sake of having options and just not fluck em?

Do you let your lady know your going out with these people?

Just wondering..
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It depends on the quality of the relationship, if sh1t tests and bvllsh1t are low I would not take risks untill such conditions remain, however I would still keep flirting with girls just to make sure to keep a necessary edge, a good option if you know what you are doing is keep girls in your orbit as well (some jealousy from her helps the health of the LTR plus you keep yourself sharp and with options, just keep them far enough).

If the relationship its medium to annoying with drama and bvllsh1t involved I would actively flirt and try to game other girls for two reason, the first one to avoid turning afc out of neediness and insecurity and second having a plan B in case the relationship ends (we dont want fall backs or dry spells).

Its not possible to give a sure answer, you have to be flexible and act according to the situation, just learn to read between the lines regarding the health of your relation.

When she starts talking about "space" or complicating your life more than usual it doesnt mean that the relationship is getting weaker, it means that the relationship is gone and she already decided to break it.
 

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Spinning plates is an insurance policy for your dating life. The insurance you have depends on how much you stand to lose if things go wrong and how likely things are to go wrong.

So if you're unhappy and your girlfriend is a real C-U-Next-Tuesday then definitely spin plates. If she is a blast and you have no problems at all.. just have female friends, but keep them out of the threat zone until they are needed.

At no point should you completely shut out ALL other women from your life. Even if your relationship is great you should still interact with other women as "friends". That's the general advice I give OTHER MEN since most are more relationship minded than me.

When it comes to me... I spin plates no matter what and I have buddies who do the same. The minute you fear losing a girl is the minute you become her slave.
 

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Who Dares Win said:
If the relationship its medium to annoying with drama and bvllsh1t involved I would actively flirt and try to game other girls
If the relationship is filled with drama and bullsh!t, I wouldn't be in it. Not for long anyway. Life's too short.

PlayHer Man said:
At no point should you completely shut out ALL other women from your life. Even if your relationship is great you should still interact with other women as "friends".
I agree you shouldn't cut out women from your life. I still talk a lot with other women, even flirt with them a bit (although there is a line I don't cross). I might take mental notes on their marital/relationship status if I find them attractive. Just for future reference.

But I don't believe it is appropriate to actually go out and hang out one on one with other woman while you are in a LTR. I don't accept that behavior from my girlfriend, so I don't want to role model it.

I know some men here define "spinning plates" differently. Some say a plate could even be a hobby, not a woman. To me, a plate is a woman you are actively dating, either having sex with her now, or planning on having sex with her shortly.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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zekko said:
I know some men here define "spinning plates" differently. Some say a plate could even be a hobby, not a woman. To me, a plate is a woman you are actively dating, either having sex with her now, or planning on having sex with her shortly.
For me "spinning plates" means having women in your life you can date/sleep with if you want to. However, it doesn't always mean acting on it every time.

Lets say I have a LTR and I go on a business trip alone to NYC where I have a "plate". You better believe I will bang her.

You have to remember a golden rule in the dating world most men forget: Women would rather share an attractive man than have a loser all to themselves. So why would you EVER limit yourself to one woman when you don't have to? Women will gladly share you. Think Tony Soprano.. I have two friends who cheat on their girlfriends.. the girls are totally aware of the cheating and they don't leave.

Remember women and men are not on the same level so don't believe you have to live up to the same standards you expect for your women. Only in recent times was cheating unacceptable for men. Marriage was originally designed to keep women from cheating while men did whatever they wanted :up:
 

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PlayHer Man said:
You have to remember a golden rule in the dating world most men forget: Women would rather share an attractive man than have a loser all to themselves. So why would you EVER limit yourself to one woman when you don't have to? Women will gladly share you. Think Tony Soprano.. I have two friends who cheat on their girlfriends.. the girls are totally aware of the cheating and they don't leave.
I am aware that this is your philosophy. If you're just dating, I agree. But if you're married/living with/in an exclusive relationship with a woman, I see it differently. I think that a man should lead by setting a proper example of what appropriate behavior is in a relationship. Lead by example, be a good role model, that sort of thing. YMMV.
 

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"The day your woman realizes she's your only option is the day she stops being your only option" - Tariq Nasheed

You HAVE to spin plates and mingle with other women, you just don't have to close (like kiss or fvck them)
 

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PlayHer Man said:
For me "spinning plates" means having women in your life you can date/sleep with if you want to. However, it doesn't always mean acting on it every time.

Lets say I have a LTR and I go on a business trip alone to NYC where I have a "plate". You better believe I will bang her.

You have to remember a golden rule in the dating world most men forget: Women would rather share an attractive man than have a loser all to themselves. So why would you EVER limit yourself to one woman when you don't have to? Women will gladly share you. Think Tony Soprano.. I have two friends who cheat on their girlfriends.. the girls are totally aware of the cheating and they don't leave.

Remember women and men are not on the same level so don't believe you have to live up to the same standards you expect for your women. Only in recent times was cheating unacceptable for men. Marriage was originally designed to keep women from cheating while men did whatever they wanted :up:

so why have an LTR in the first place, smartass retaRd? ltr means you probably love the woman or have deep feelings for u to even have one. if you **** other women, shows you dont need her anyway. its ok to have other women on the side as 'friends' and mingle too but to **** them? that crosses the line.
 

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ghostridur said:
so why have an LTR in the first place, smartass retaRd? ltr means you probably love the woman or have deep feelings for u to even have one. if you **** other women, shows you dont need her anyway. its ok to have other women on the side as 'friends' and mingle too but to **** them? that crosses the line.
You have one LTR for emotional bonding and other girls on the side for sexual variety. Is this really a new concept to you? And you call yourself a DJ?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Always spin plates. Your woman is doing it too. You always need to have options. Women attract women. A woman can have a man whenever she wants to. Most men have trouble with women. Have backups. That's my ruling.

Case closed.
 

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PlayHer Man said:
You have one LTR for emotional bonding and other girls on the side for sexual variety. Is this really a new concept to you? And you call yourself a DJ?
yes its a new concept HAHA. sexual variety well thats new. your woman will be sex starved til she dies and you will be back on ur toes again gdluck. o yah what if she catches u what do u say?
 

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ghostridur said:
o yah what if she catches u what do u say?
"Baby we've been dating for 2 years but I'm a DJ that spins plates!"

Lol you guys can do as you wish, but I spin plates when I'm dating once I find a good woman I want to have a meaningful relationship I eventually drop the other plates and become exclusive with said woman. If you're spinning plates after you become exclusive or "gf" a woman you're cheating on her. By spinning plates I mean fuking multiple women, having friends of the opposite sex you aren't fuking is not spinning plates.
 

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sigma335 said:
"Baby we've been dating for 2 years but I'm a DJ that spins plates!"

Lol you guys can do as you wish, but I spin plates when I'm dating once I find a good woman I want to have a meaningful relationship I eventually drop the other plates and become exclusive with said woman. If you're spinning plates after you become exclusive or "gf" a woman you're cheating on her. By spinning plates I mean fuking multiple women, having friends of the opposite sex you aren't fuking is not spinning plates.
well at least ur advice makes proper sense. thumbs up bro
 

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ghostridur, in PlayerHer defense, I understand where he is coming from.

Women are content with a man once they have them exclusive, so sexy time slows down because they used that to get you. Now that they got you they just want you to be there emotionally and sex is set tto the back (for most of them).

Men see it differently, we like the emotional aspect of a relationship but also sex is something we need to do! so to not become dependent on your ladies one vagina that she gives up on her terms (making you a slave!) you have your options to the side that you can release that sex on!

Only problem is that society is so in favor of the women that this is seen as wrong, we as men are suppose to have "self control" and be totally okay with her giving it when she wants.

I posted this because I was just thinking of spinning plates w/o flucking to just keep me sharp, but now im thinking that is pointless cause I'm not entertained in what a women is saying unless she is my family, my lady or if im trying to bang her...

And the work to keep it a secret is way to much work, and if you get caught then your really flucked (maybe)...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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ghostridur said:
yes its a new concept HAHA. sexual variety well thats new. your woman will be sex starved til she dies and you will be back on ur toes again gdluck. o yah what if she catches u what do u say?
I'm not afraid of women like you are, so I don't worry about getting "caught". I'll just say: "She came onto me". That's the only explanation I will give and she can decide what she wants to do from there.

The second you fear losing a woman is the second you become her slave. Burn that into your brain bro.
 

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Don't stop gaming. Flirt with girls, just for practice. It's far easier to be outcome independent and keep your game warmed up when you are coming from the position of satisfaction.
MYTH: Find one woman you like who likes you, and stick with her through thick and thin.

TRUTH: This is the biggest mistake I ever made. I used to be loyal to whomever I was with, even when someone better came along. All that happened was that I missed out on some great opportunities while I hung on with losers that ended up dumping me anyway. Do this if the two of you are getting married; once you've tied the knot it's a whole other can of worms. However, if you're just dating, do exactly the opposite. In very subtle ways you have to let her know that although you like her, there are lots of other women out there and you still notice them. Glance at tits and legs. Smile at and chat with pretty ladies, even while she's with you (you're just being friendly, of course). This is the most important thing I've learned about dating in a decade. I even thought of dating WASP bytches again, so long as I could keep this in mind. Never, never let her know that she's the only game in town. As soon as she believes that she's your "everything," she'll start whining and bytching and making demands.

Think of it like buying a car. If you let the salesman know that this is your dream car, that you've stayed awake nights thinking about buying exactly this car, do you think the price will go down? Of course not! He'll jack the price up as high as he thinks he can go and still have you buy it. If you tell your girl that you've dreamed all of your life of going out with someone like her, do you think she'll smile and kiss you and things will go on as before? Of course not! She'll realize that you'll put up with more of her bad habits, and that she can put up with fewer of yours, and the bytching will start. She'll try to make the relationship as comfortable for her as possible and still keep it going. Remember the car salesman? Remember the attitude that "this is a nice car, but there are hundreds of other great ones, including that one across the street", even as your heart is thumping and you're practically drooling? If you're just dating, this is the attitude to take.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=16343​
 

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PlayHer Man said:
I'm not afraid of women like you are, so I don't worry about getting "caught". I'll just say: "She came onto me". That's the only explanation I will give and she can decide what she wants to do from there.

The second you fear losing a woman is the second you become her slave. Burn that into your brain bro.
pathetic and laughable. no point in having an ltr then if losing it doesnt matter. finding another woman for emotional bonding is tuff work all over again because the woman has to be perfect in my opinion to emotionally bond, hard to find. the thought of getting caught is even worse , as i gotta deal with the emotional consequences too if i was 'bonded to her emotionally'. when i lose her, im obv. gonna feel like sh!t since she was an ltr
 

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If you're in a LTR are YOU ok with your girlfriend spinning plates?

However you answer that is the answer to this poll
 

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PlayHer Man said:
For me "spinning plates" means having women in your life you can date/sleep with if you want to. However, it doesn't always mean acting on it every time.

Lets say I have a LTR and I go on a business trip alone to NYC where I have a "plate". You better believe I will bang her.

You have to remember a golden rule in the dating world most men forget: Women would rather share an attractive man than have a loser all to themselves. So why would you EVER limit yourself to one woman when you don't have to? Women will gladly share you. Think Tony Soprano.. I have two friends who cheat on their girlfriends.. the girls are totally aware of the cheating and they don't leave.

Remember women and men are not on the same level so don't believe you have to live up to the same standards you expect for your women. Only in recent times was cheating unacceptable for men. Marriage was originally designed to keep women from cheating while men did whatever they wanted :up:

Just because your sleazeball friends have skanky girlfriends who allow themto cheat, doesn't make it morally acceptable. Then again I only live my life by my own moral standards, so if theyr happy with that life more power to them. But citing an example of 2 of your friends doesn't make it a universal truth

I have a sleazeball friend that's been dating a girl for 7 years and he does as h pleases and she does as he says. This guy once put his gf in timeout an made her sit in the corner over the phone because she said something inappropriate at a party and he found out about it. He cheats on her, and she knows it. You know what thT means? She has mental issues, and she's a weak codependent person

Having chicks at your disposal that you keep at arms length that you flirt with and keep a vibe with wheee u both know u could fvck at anytime, whether you act on it or not, is cheating. Are you ok with your LTR keeping guys around her in the form of special friends thT she could and is planning to fvck olif things go south?

It's not about being afraid of women, it's about not being a d-bag and having respect for and being committed to the person you CHOOSE to be in a LTR with. I don't not cheat because I fear my gf, but because I'm hot a d-bag

I kno you'll prolly attack me now because, well, I jut call you a morally bankrupt d bag. But I actually enjoy reading your posts and your perspective and respect what you have to say here but just disagree with this
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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