“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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GtarPlayr73 said:
You hit the nail on the head! I'm filing your description away because it is so true. WOW! Clubs are the women's den, despite what any PUA would say otherwise. Any man who goes there is an AFC by default because he is chasing the women! Going to a club automatically makes women the PRIZE TO BE WON through slick techniques, etc. A true DJ is having none of that. Face it, any man who goes there, is obsessed with women, not living his own premediated life.
No offense, but it sounds like you might be one of those guys who is bitter about not having had any success meeting women in clubs.

Any man who goes to a club is obsessed with women? That's beyond ridiculous.

And going to clubs DOES NOT automatically make women "the prize to be won".

There's a club a few blocks from my house I go to from time to time. I would say about 75% of the time I go in there I get serious eye contact from one or more women. Don't know what it is about this particular bar, but when I go there I feel like a piece of meat. All I have to do is look for eye contact and I'm IN. If it's that easy, how are the women "the prize". They aren't. They are whatever YOU make them out to be.

No, i couldn't even begin to imagine finding an intelligent woman with any depth in a club. That's why i've never been attracted to clubs. My intuition told me it was not a healthy place where a man could truly be a man, and being a guy, even an AFC, i wasn't interested in going to such a place. Indeed, men who live the clubbing lifestyle have nothing else going for them. What are men doing in such a place? They should be out with the guys, doing what men enjoy, while the women gossip and carry on somewhere else. When you do have a healthy, mature, freethinking woman in your life, then you go out WITH HER to a quality nightspot.
Bull shiz-nit. Go find yourself a church girl then, I'm sure you'll have better odds there, lol.
 

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Not all men though, mainly americans.

That's why it's so easy to pick-up any American woman coming to Europe. regardless of whether she's married or engaged. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to spend the night with something else that the usual brainless yankee swine.
LoL You wouldn't have had the experience of having been an American man traveling to other countries, I suppose. Because, I probably fvcked your girlfriend.

Apparently some non-Americans (and even some confused Americans) like to talk badly about the big guys in the world and mimic what they hear on BBC and other European media outlets like its their own unique opinion, because thats what the euro-society sells you. Hey, I understand, its only natural to resent people who have what you don't.

Please, keep drinking our coca-cola, watching our movies, eating at Mcdonalds, using our computers and software, and keep googling. Keep buying and emersing yourself in the only world-wide culture. American culture must be the only world wide culture because it sucks, so much. Ty for your money.

And sorry, You can travel to our commercial society, but shop all you like you wont find anyone selling a pair of balls.


ValleyDJing
"And its also why we get laid anytime we come to your country just for being Americans. The once in a lifetime opportunity for your chicks to be with a dude who isn't some pasty, sappy, hopelessly romantic p.ussy with a cheesy accent."

lol. While I don't believe all Europeans or non Americans are pasty, sappy, hopelessly romantic pussies with cheesy accents, I think we have one of those here. I'm sure you 're a unique snowflake, though. (not you ValleyDJ)
 
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LoL You wouldn't have had the experience of having been an American man traveling to other countries, I suppose. Because, I probably fvcked your girlfriend.

Apparently some non-Americans (and even some confused Americans) like to talk badly about the big guys in the world and mimic what they hear on BBC and other European media outlets like its their own unique opinion, because thats what the euro-society sells you. Hey, I understand, its only natural to resent people who have what you don't.

Please, keep drinking our coca-cola, watching our movies, eating at Mcdonalds, using our computers and software, and keep googling. Keep buying and emersing yourself in the only world-wide culture. American culture must be the only world wide culture because it sucks, so much. Ty for your money.

And sorry, You can travel to our commercial society, but shop all you like you wont find anyone selling a pair of balls.


ValleyDJing
And its also why we get laid anytime we come to your country just for being Americans. The once in a lifetime opportunity for your chicks to be with a dude who isn't some pasty, sappy, hopelessly romantic p.ussy with a cheesy accent.

lol. While I certainly don't believe all Europeans or non Americans are pasty, sappy, hopelessly romantic pussies with cheesy accents, I think we have one of those here. I'm sure you 're a unique snowflake, though.

He spout off about "yankee swine", like since we were from America we were un-cultured neanderthals. Well fuk him and his high and mighty, tea time s.hit! He wouldn't even have a country if it wasn't for the United States of America. He wanted to play with stereotypes and name calling. Two can play that game, thats all my point was. And I'm not pasty (not even 100% white) I don't have an accent, I'm not a "romantic", and I sure as hell ain't a ***** or snowflake. Not sure where you got that idea.
 

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Valley, I wasnt refering to you as a snowflake, I was refering to that foreigner, I guess ill edit and clarify that.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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semperfkemall said:
Valley, I wasnt refering to you as a snowflake, I was refering to that foreigner, I guess ill edit and clarify that.
Alright cool. Yeah I'm just sick of people clowning America on this board. My bad if I snapped. I was doing such a good job of not getting into flame wars the past few months too. lol!
 

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I think what it all boils down to is that Amerikans (as you like to spell) are lazy, but work very hard and Europeans are not lazy, yet work collectively like to get along. Everyone in Amerika is pretty much out for themselves (I don't care what position a person holds, he's basically out for himself any and everywhere, young or old). Just look at our traffic jams. We need more oil!
 

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STR8UP said:
No offense, but it sounds like you might be one of those guys who is bitter about not having had any success meeting women in clubs.

Any man who goes to a club is obsessed with women? That's beyond ridiculous.

And going to clubs DOES NOT automatically make women "the prize to be won".

There's a club a few blocks from my house I go to from time to time. I would say about 75% of the time I go in there I get serious eye contact from one or more women. Don't know what it is about this particular bar, but when I go there I feel like a piece of meat. All I have to do is look for eye contact and I'm IN. If it's that easy, how are the women "the prize". They aren't. They are whatever YOU make them out to be.



Bull shiz-nit. Go find yourself a church girl then, I'm sure you'll have better odds there, lol.
That's so true, dude. Women want sex and want sex from me. "I know that I can walk into any place and walk out with another man's woman." - Gene Simmons
 

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Hey, I understand, its only natural to resent people who have what you don't.
What would that be?

POVERTY:
12% of American population living under poverty line.
(FYI France : 6.2%)

LIFE EXPECTANCY:
USA: 78 years...
France: 80.59 years

ILLITERACY
In the U.S.A. 40-44 million (21-23% of adults) are functionally illiterate.

CRIMINALITY
An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure.
There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants in the US...

Netherlands : 1.11538 per 100,000 inhabitants
France: 1.73272...

More interesting still, the US hold the world record in number of rapes...
89,110 in 2005. It's 33% more than the second country on the list, South Africa... I think it talks volume about the frustrations of the American male...

WORKING TIME:
Now, according to the annual study published by UBS (Union des Banques Suisses) I could decide to move to Los Angeles and work an average of 1957hours/year with 11 holidays or... in Paris where I'd work 1481 hours a year and have 27 days-off to enjoy the company of my friends, family, travel, read, play music and enjoy some good wine and cheese.

Also FYI:
Amsterdam (1687Hrs/yr ; 25 holidays)
vs.
New-York (1870Hrs/yr ; 13 holidays)

I am well-aware that statistics fail to capture the essence of the European Lifestyle as they are but quantitative measures. Nevertheless, I believe it may help reconsider some of your beliefs about American superiority.
 

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Where did you get those statistics? They are worthless without sources.

It's not even worth my time until you can show me where those numbers came from. UBS? do you have a web link to this study? Though I would believe you about holidays and work hours, thats a bit given.

"..your beliefs about American superiority"

My concern isn't arguing American superiority, it is against people arguing American inferiority.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Blusher said:
CRIMINALITY
An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure.
There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants in the US...

Netherlands : 1.11538 per 100,000 inhabitants
France: 1.73272...

More interesting still, the US hold the world record in number of rapes...
89,110 in 2005. It's 33% more than the second country on the list, South Africa... I think it talks volume about the frustrations of the American male...
You are obscuring statistics to prove your point. When it comes to rape America ranks 9th in the world ( 0.301318 per 1,000 people). It is also noted that most of those so called rape statistics are bogus because not all countries are honest about it or treat rape as seriously or due to cultural shame do not wish to report it (do you really believe Saudi Arabia is ranked 65th in Rape?? the way they treat women there, they are better off being silent then report it).

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

As for murders per capita, America ranks 24th in the world: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita
 

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Blusher said:
What would that be?

POVERTY:
12% of American population living under poverty line.
(FYI France : 6.2%)

LIFE EXPECTANCY:
USA: 78 years...
France: 80.59 years

ILLITERACY
In the U.S.A. 40-44 million (21-23% of adults) are functionally illiterate.

CRIMINALITY
An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure.
There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants in the US...

Netherlands : 1.11538 per 100,000 inhabitants
France: 1.73272...

More interesting still, the US hold the world record in number of rapes...
89,110 in 2005. It's 33% more than the second country on the list, South Africa... I think it talks volume about the frustrations of the American male...

WORKING TIME:
Now, according to the annual study published by UBS (Union des Banques Suisses) I could decide to move to Los Angeles and work an average of 1957hours/year with 11 holidays or... in Paris where I'd work 1481 hours a year and have 27 days-off to enjoy the company of my friends, family, travel, read, play music and enjoy some good wine and cheese.

Also FYI:
Amsterdam (1687Hrs/yr ; 25 holidays)
vs.
New-York (1870Hrs/yr ; 13 holidays)

I am well-aware that statistics fail to capture the essence of the European Lifestyle as they are but quantitative measures. Nevertheless, I believe it may help reconsider some of your beliefs about American superiority.
STFU! Nobody likes the Netherlands...Kill yourself!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n157/bulldog_red7/killyourself.gif
 

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Blusher said:
What would that be?

POVERTY:
12% of American population living under poverty line.
(FYI France : 6.2%)

LIFE EXPECTANCY:
USA: 78 years...
France: 80.59 years

ILLITERACY
In the U.S.A. 40-44 million (21-23% of adults) are functionally illiterate.

CRIMINALITY
An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure.
There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants in the US...

Netherlands : 1.11538 per 100,000 inhabitants
France: 1.73272...

More interesting still, the US hold the world record in number of rapes...
89,110 in 2005. It's 33% more than the second country on the list, South Africa... I think it talks volume about the frustrations of the American male...

WORKING TIME:
Now, according to the annual study published by UBS (Union des Banques Suisses) I could decide to move to Los Angeles and work an average of 1957hours/year with 11 holidays or... in Paris where I'd work 1481 hours a year and have 27 days-off to enjoy the company of my friends, family, travel, read, play music and enjoy some good wine and cheese.

Also FYI:
Amsterdam (1687Hrs/yr ; 25 holidays)
vs.
New-York (1870Hrs/yr ; 13 holidays)

I am well-aware that statistics fail to capture the essence of the European Lifestyle as they are but quantitative measures. Nevertheless, I believe it may help reconsider some of your beliefs about American superiority.
Do you really think you'd suddenly be in poverty if you moved to america?

Do a bunch of Mcdonalds-eating fat soccer moms and trailerpark trash bringing down the life expectency in this country have anything to do with your lifestyle choices affecting your health?

Do you really believe the bullsh*t rape statistics, considering the huge number of rapes that never get reported in some countries, and the number of false rape accusations in the US?

Would anyone be forcing you to take a job that works your ass 60 hours a week? First you criticize the US for its obsession with wealth, then for the number of hours americans work. Which of those would be forced upon you if you moved here? What does any of that have to do with what you do or don't have from living outside the US? You're coming off as one of those Eurosnobs whose entire view of the US is based on the occasional american tourist you notice, meaningless/distorted statistics you find off the internet, and the all too popular hate-on for america that is based on the very kinds of stereotypes, cliches, generalizations and cultural ignorance people like you love to blame americans of.

Blusher said:
Nevertheless, I believe it may help reconsider some of your beliefs about American superiority.
You're the one who's been wanking off all over the thread about cultural superiority. It's time to shove it up your ass.


ValleyDJ- shut the **** up, really. You just come off as obnoxious and dumb. I stayed a number of weeks in Amsterdam there ain't a city in the US that comes close to it.
 

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My sources are mostly the cia website which I do not believe to be an overtly anti-american propaganda organization. :D

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2046.html

and the annual UBS study which you may download here:

http://www.ubs.com/1/ShowMedia/ubs_ch/wealth_mgmt_ch/research?contentId=103982&name=eng.pdf



Do you really think you'd suddenly be in poverty if you moved to america?
No. But then again, I believe something's not quite right when the world's richest countries has 12% of its population living in poverty.

Do a bunch of Mcdonalds-eating fat soccer moms and trailerpark trash bringing down the life expectency in this country have anything to do with your lifestyle choices affecting your health?
There we go again with this self-centered, individualistic, narrow-minded point of view that gets in the way of having a decent and open debate about general issues.

so... NO! I am fine, I am fit and healthy, thanks. All I am saying is on the whole American lifestyle, food, habits, lack of medical care for a vast part of the population may be the reason why the US have a lower life expectancy than many European countries.

Do you really believe the bullsh*t rape statistics, considering the huge number of rapes that never get reported in some countries, and the number of false rape accusations in the US?
I thought about this false accusation thing. But if that was cause for such high numbers, then wouldn't it still be a very relevant indicator of some serious dysfunction of the American society?

Would anyone be forcing you to take a job that works your ass 60 hours a week? First you criticize the US for its obsession with wealth, then for the number of hours americans work. Which of those would be forced upon you if you moved here?
The 60 hours a week culture and the obsession with wealth are closely related.

Let me take an example. For a previous company I worked in, I went on several audit missions of a factory in the UK and met an american guy there that was working on the same mission. When we came back after a long day of work, we sat at the bar and he began telling me his version of the American Dream.

His neighbour went to buy himself a new car, nothing fancy. All he had in mind was beaten ol' Civic so he could commute. But the salesguy showed him a couple of sport cars and got him to the point where he knew the poor chap would bite the hook and swallow the bait. So off he went with a second hand Corvette or whatever it was, drives around his block, makes his neighbours jealous, his girlfriend is very impressed and gives him a fantastic blow-job while on the highway. Only thing is, he hadn't bought the car yet. He had just given enough money to the salesguy to come back first thing in the morning on monday, give the Corvette back and get the Civic. That was a test drive, nothing more.

But, as my colleague told me, you don't need to be a genius to figure that no suburban middle-class man in his right mind would ever consider bringing a car back that boosted his fragile ego and got him more attention than anything else he ever did before. So he kept the car payin an expensive lease on his modest income.

Then his girlfriend wants to go on holidays, he's broke as **** but he just can't say no so he starts working extra-shifts and then a second job to keep up with his mortgage and the lease on the car. That thing goes on for two years, the guys is working pretty much every day and most of every night until he just broke down and shot himself.

"That, he said, happens everyday. Every f--king day."

Now, tell me. Was my colleague totally out of his mind or does that make any kind of sense?

What does any of that have to do with what you do or don't have from living outside the US?
I believe criminality, poverty, illiteracy and a dysfonctionnal healthcare system can cause serious social tensions in any country and have adverse effects on the well-being of all of its inhabitants.

And again, you make my point about american individualistic culture as you seem incapable of thinking any further than the implications on your precious self.

You're coming off as one of those Eurosnobs whose entire view of the US is based on the occasional american tourist you notice, meaningless/distorted statistics you find off the internet, and the all too popular hate-on for america that is based on the very kinds of stereotypes, cliches, generalizations and cultural ignorance people like you love to blame americans of.
Look, I have had an American girlfriend for years, I have had American friends, I played in a band with American guys, I played in Hockey team with American players, I travelled to several major cities in the US, I worked in American companies with American colleagues and I feel pretty much entitled to my own opinion.

One thing I found interesting too is that after a couple of months in Europe, most of them, if not all came to the realization that they had been kept in almost complete ignorance and were fed a buffet of cliches and stereotypes about Europe for all of their life.

I guess all I am saying is America is probably not the best place in the world to live in but how would you know?
 

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As for murders per capita, America ranks 24th in the world: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita
24th indeed, right behind former communist countries plagued by corruption and Thirld World countries. The US are a safer place to be than Colombia, Venezuela or Zambia... Congratulations! :crackup:

PS: Plus the statistics are biased as they are not taking into account the crimes perpetrated by US soldiers occupying Irak.
 

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I didn't see this spike tv thing, but a lot of you guys are totally off the mark.

First of all, you are fools if you seriously think European men are more masculine than American men. I don't have much respect for modern American gender roles, but I think it's pretty much unquestionable that America is one of the most masculine countries in the developed world. (And, unfortunately, that includes many of the horish women, too.) That's not saying much, of course, compared to places like France where the work week is 30 hours and every man feels dependent on the government to give him a handout.

The real men are mostly in places like Africa, Japan, and the Middle East, if they still exist at all.


And its also why we get laid anytime we come to your country just for being Americans. The once in a lifetime opportunity for your chicks to be with a dude who isn't some pasty, sappy, hopelessly romantic p.ussy with a cheesy accent.
I haven't actually been to Europe, but from what I hear, I suspect this generalization is true. American men can attract European women because 1) we're richer 2) our country has high "status" on the world scene and 3) because we're more masculine.

American women can go for European guys because they're worshipfully "romantic." Basically, American female hors bathe in the adoration of European chumps. Many of the Euro guys aren't total AFCs; they're at least bold. But they really don't stand a chance when dealing with arrogant (masculine) American hors, who will just use them.


Nonetheless, the very thing you guys are whining about is American masculinity:

its no wonder that women think men are pigs when sh*t like that is aired as representing male interests.
I still have to hear from the girl who finds Americans attractive just because of their nationality... Now why is that? Because they're perceived as ignorant and tasteless.
Who gives a damn if they're pigs? That just means they're real men (or at least trying to pretend like they are). You obviously haven't read much of the DJ Bible if you seriously think that intelligence and "good taste" are necessary attributes for attracting women.


Btw, I think DJDamage's analysis of the club scene is an interesting new perspective.
 

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First of all, English is not my mother tongue, so bear with me...
I usually do not take part in these kind of discussions (you know, the Europe vs. USA discussions), but the following quote is such wide generalisation, that I simply can not resist the urge....
I don't have much respect for modern American gender roles, but I think it's pretty much unquestionable that America is one of the most masculine countries in the developed world
That is comming from a guy who has never set foot on another continent. :down:

I haven't actually been to Europe, but from what I hear, I suspect this generalization is true. American men can attract European women because 1) we're richer 2) our country has high "status" on the world scene and 3) because we're more masculine.
Europe is not exactly a third world country and I do believe that European women might be more attracted to American men simply because it lies in our human nature to be drawn to the "unknown" (there is, after all, a certain mystery behind that).

The reasons you listed are utterly nonsense. No offense, dude, but go and travel a bit and you might find out that every country has its fair share of masculine men.

You obviously haven't read much of the DJ Bible if you seriously think that intelligence and "good taste" are necessary attributes for attracting women.
I agree, if you are not looking for a "high quality woman" you probably don't need good taste or intelligence.


STFU! Nobody likes the Netherlands...Kill yourself!
Really, you should visit Amsterdam sometime. I understand that Dutch people can be a pain in the ass when they are driving with their trailers on the highways (because most of the time they don't blink when they pull out in front of you) or when Germany is playing them in football (Yes, I mean the game that you play with your feet - hence the name;) ), but overall Dutch people belong to the most open minded human beings I have met so far.

Travel and get rid of your prejudices! :)
 

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I haven't actually been to Europe but I suspect this generalization is true.
Wow! That's quite some solid reasoning coming from someone who knows what he's talking about…

Who gives a damn if they're pigs? That just means they're real men (or at least trying to pretend like they are).
What is with this obsession of being or not being a 'real man'.
I'd say anyone who so obsessed about his masculinity should get some help. I mean give me a break, you make it sound like only hairy bikers and gangsters have any kind of success with women.

This is ridiculous… Are you twelve or just insecure?

You obviously haven't read much of the DJ Bible if you seriously think that intelligence and "good taste" are necessary attributes for attracting women.
Well I don't know what your Holy Book says about it, but I know what 15 years of picking-up girls and a healthy LTR have thought me. And I know that these quality surely don't hurt when it comes to attracting women. Well, by the way if it wasn't for the sake of seducing women, I'd still think life's a tad better and more interesting when you're intelligent and tasteful. But again, I don't know if I should expect anyone on this board to second my thoughts. I surely would hope so…
 

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TheoTiger said:
Travel and get rid of your prejudices! :)

No prejudices except those against people who just spit random insults at people of other countries. Just for the record, I didn't mean to offend anyone but Blusher so...yeah. I'd love to travel to like Sweden or someplace like that. I heard the chicks there are bomb as f.uck! (Wouldn't mind pulling the American card for an easy lay ;) ) But alas, I don't have that kinda money. I live comfortably but not travel to Europe whenever I want to comfortably.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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