"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This is a problem, such as this one girl who i like i will be talking to her and the conversation gets stale really quickly and we dont have anything to say to each other, and this other girl who i dont like at all just a as an aquaintence i can talk with no problem and keep a convo going. Do you think this just because the first girl is nervous around me or not comfortbale around me, cause i try using C+F but the first girl doesnt really give me much of chance since its me doing all the talking.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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GuitarOnFire

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It could be nervousness or that she just doesn't have good conversation skills. If the conversation hangs, as it sometimes does, just end it on a positive note and go on your way.

Nothing is worse than having two people just standing there not saying anything. :)
 

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Well what I think what you should do is do the nouning thing. like lets say you asked her how her weekend was? and shes like it was alright I went to the beach. so what you do is find the noun in her sentences, the person, place or thing and ask her a question. example she said she went to the beach so say so how was the beach? she will answer then comment saying something like the beach is cool to bad I only go there once a month. see where im getting? do the noun thing and you wont go wrong. also if you guys are in a place make a comment on something wherever your at. Try asking her what kind of music and stuff she likes. I do this and dAMN the conversations lasts forever. so keep nouning and good luck.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Muphaser

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Leave before the convo get stale, or say something randomly plucked out of thin air...

Either keep the convo rolling or exit
 

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look around. unless youre sitting in a blank white room (so uh we're all alone...) you have to see something that you can comment on. if its something about her, ask a question about it...it'll get things rolling.

one of my favorite lines...if i already have rapport/attraction with the girl...is when things get silent i'll say "you know, every time theres an akward silence, a gay baby is born. lets try to avoid these, if just for the children." usually gets a laugh and they actively try to avoid silences like its some kinda game.
 

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dannowillbookem said:
"you know, every time theres an akward silence, a gay baby is born. lets try to avoid these, if just for the children."

Haha! Thats a good 1 bro, im borrowing that, you dont mid right?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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not sure we could fit in a car together with our combined macking, bro ;)

Or we could say we were identical twins, and got adopted and had sugery to change the way we look and...

I think I jus wont use it in the same car as you, dude
 

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your too serious when talking to hot girls. A girl you don't like you don't care if you mess up thats how you should be when talking to hot girls. An your also scared on saying the wrong thing. There are so many things to talk about but at that moment you can't find 1 possible thing? YOu need more time in the field.
 

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we all eat food said:
Any comments?
Talk to girls who aren't so dull.
 

dannowillbookem

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Muphaser said:
not sure we could fit in a car together with our combined macking, bro ;)

Or we could say we were identical twins, and got adopted and had sugery to change the way we look and...

I think I jus wont use it in the same car as you, dude
good thinking :cool:
 
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