"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey guys, I lurk on this forum sometimes and I just registered to ask this question. I've been in a LTR for a few years and just got out. Haven't gone on any dates.

I'm taking a super short night class and there is a giirl in it who sometimes seems interested in me, sometimes I'm not sure. She seems to have stress issues from her job.

The only thing that really makes me feel awkard is she is way younger than me, and she knows this because she asked me my age first time I talked to her.

Other than that I'm ready to ask her out and get rejected if thats how it has to be. But I keep debating the best way to do it, timing, etc.

I think I should do it in person, but asking her after class seems like it would be rushed and I can't always talk to her alone. So I can always just call her and do it. What do you guys think?

And is asking her to dinner a bad idea? I've been trying to think of something creative but no luck. I already know her well enough where coffee seems too informal.

Unfortunately my social life is pretty dead. I'm working on improving it, but at the moment I don't have anything exciting going on to invite her to, and I want to just get this over with now.

Thanks for any advice!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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your situation is not as "specific' as you think. these are the steps you need to follow.... ready......

1. stop analyzing what and how you will do this

2. dont ASSUME you will get rejected (if you think you will, you will)

3. stop wasting time and just go ask her to do something ..ANYTHING.

(dinner, coffee, help shopping, etc)

next time you see her use the 3 second rule. give yourself no more than 3 seconds to close this deal. this eliminates your worst enemy... you thinking to much
 
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