"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Sosuave Memories!

Desdinova

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I'll admit that I'm a history buff when it comes to things that interest me. One of those things is sosuave, which had a profound effect on my life, and the quality of it.

To the best of my knowledge, sosuave.com has been around since April 2000. It has exploded into a fantastic place. Many boys who never grew up finally did after finding this place. They were not only able to get their issues with the opposite sex fixed up, but they were also able to do a lot of much needed repairs on themselves. I was one of those people who, thanks to this site, began the adventurous journey of self-improvement back in 2001. In the last five years, I've seen many memorable (and not so memorable) members come through here. So here, I present some sosuave memories that give a bit of a history on the site and some of the people who have contributed. For any "old-timers" who want to contribute to this thread, please do!

Back when I originally joined sosuave (late 2001), the Bootcamp didn't exist, and the DJ Bible was obviously new since most of the posts in the tips forum were in the Bible. The posts in DJ Discussion wouldn't move for hours at a time since the membership wasn't very large. There couldn't be any "NEED HELP ASAP" posts since it could take hours to get a response.

The forum colors were tan, gray, and black. According to a post once made by Pook, there used to be a "white forum" that existed before the tan one, but I haven't been able to verify this.


The original DJ Bible (and forum colors)

Other forums that were eliminated:
Unusual Techniques in Seduction (Speed Seduction Forum)
Suggestions & Feedback
Success Stories

The first mass troll attack (Feb 18, 2003)

First registered user (besides Allen):
Krynnster

First registered user to be banned:
Smitty

User with the most posts (as of 09/02/2006)
Wyldfire

Wyldfire had a previous account (Wildfire) which she never used.

Registered user (not banned) with the most unpronounceable name:
Πovoς

Runner up with the most unpronounceable name:
|50|2|)

Oldest user who is still active on sosuave:
disciple

First sosuave graduate to get married:
Panzergrenadier

Pook Impersonators:
Pook.
Poök (aka "Fake Pook")
Pookalicious
Pooki

The First Moderators:
Hidden-Danjer
mellow mel
G
Krynnster
Cecil

Did You Know?

The Mature Man forum existed back in the early days of Sosuave, and the minimum age limit for the forum was 23 instead of 25? It was eliminated due to few postings, but was resurrected March 16, 2004.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Woa the orignal DJ Bible still exists? I remember when it wasn't even a separate link, it was just Neophyte's idea and a thread :)
 

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These are memories i'm unfortunate enough not to have :(
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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first two sosuave members to get married
penkitten and giovanni casanova
 

Void

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other sosuave members to get married: Eternal and uhh whats her name ..
 

wavejams007

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Another great fact. Wavejams007 was the first to use the username, wavejams007. woo hoo. Go me.

sorry, I know, waste of time, but I felt like getting mentioned.
 

Climax

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hehe... cute thread.... *group hug* :D


Laterz...
 

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first two sosuave members to get married
penkitten and giovanni casanova
Yeah, I forgot about that one. Also...

Sosuave Fun Fact #26: Giovanni Casanova was engaged once before he met Penkitten (at least once before on sosuave anyway)
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Climax

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Desdinova said:
Yeah, I forgot about that one. Also...

Sosuave Fun Fact #26: Giovanni Casanova was engaged once before he met Penkitten (at least once before on sosuave anyway)
Desdinova: here is another fun fact for you: Kiss my ass! .. hehe joking... Who was Giovanni Casanova engaged to on Sosuave before Kitten?


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Giovanni Casanova

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~ªêQµïTª$~ said:
Who was Giovanni Casanova engaged to on Sosuave before Kitten?
Lucifer.
 

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To correct a few things:

Desdinova: Other forums to be hacked away:

- Bars and Clubs
- Humor

Void: Her name is Fist_Of_Fury, and stop putting ideas in her head...

Gio: I don't think it was Lucifer...I just think she was "Satan."

Other sosuave fun facts:

Longest reigning moderator: Paradox

Second Administrator: That is right, there is another registered username as an admin..."Allen Thompson."

Shortest reigning moderator: Mr.Blue1280. Became a mod, then kicked ou ta few days later for harassment.

First HS Bible run by: Lorenzo

First admitted female member: G. That is right, there was a female mod.

First person to be mistaken for a female: Ashlee_Angel.
 

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Diablo's original account: [T]he ishop

Really screwed with the quoting feature.
 

Desdinova

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Thanks for adding to the thread, Eternal! I completely forgot about the Bars & Clubs forum, but I don't remember the Humour one. Possibly pre-dates me.

I also didn't know there was a female moderator. Learn something new everyday!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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SamePendo

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Fun fact: Diablo was banned before he became a moderator.
 

Void

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fun fact: Diablo was the first person to post "interesting" pictures of women.
 

Eternal

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Humor wasn't around a long time. If you check the archives that Deep Dish pointed out, you might get to see it in a few sections.

Fun Fact: Neanderthal Supersolider is the only person to have been a moderator and to now be banned (at his own request.)
 

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And by the way, if you're talking about any kind of real rapport, as opposed to the pseudo-rapport which is the aim of speed seduction, you can have it one of two ways: strong and lasting raport gradually over time, or weak and fleeting rapport quickly. Or, going back to the whole half-elf thing, you can use your Skull Cap of Charm which gives you a +6 CHARISMA and instant strong rapport with women.

- Giovanni Casanova, the moderator
Classic... :up:
 

Void

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Classic... :up:
I wondered if anyone noticed my sig :)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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