"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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blackhatter

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Why hasn't it been done? I think it's about time we start seeing some faces in the community (I'd like to see some of the more so called 'experienced' DJs on here in real life).

I think whoever sets it up should set it as a secret group.. i wouldn't want women knowing I go online for dating advice!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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blackhatter

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Blacked out?

By making a group secret all it does is not allow others who aren't in the group to see that you're a member.

Who said anything about blacking out faces?
 

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im not feeling the facebook group either. thats why we have sosuave.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Wait, so my friends can't see the group but the group can see my friend list?

No way.
 

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Asteconn said:
I support the idea - it'd be VERY useful in finding DJs near each other :up:
why dont we just start up a poll or have a specialy designed thread where posters can rep their own cities and country.

if a poster would like to meet a fellow sosuave member they can pm them or post within the specific thread.

that way we can still remain anonymous.
 

I'm in the Mood

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I think that might further ruin the mysteriousness of our "art."

I'm actually worried about this stuff, because if the seduction community gets too publicized, it will be more common knowledge around women and they may become more critical of men in the end.

Even for guys who don't come here, if a woman knew about this stuff and a guy who didn't used something from here by chance, what would happen?
I doubt this will happen but I've heard some guys tell me "that pickup artist stuff is something that people shouldn't be doing."
 

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Im interested in a facebook group but also too concerned about keeping this a secret. I can only imagine the damage it would do to my life.

My friends laughed their a$$es off after stumbling upon "the pickup artist" tv show. At random times they would shout out pua lingo in public and crack up. Thats when I realized I was living a double life. It needs to stay a double life, atleast for now.
 

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dont be dumb...this type of site isnt something to talk about with women around and getting other guys to know just makes more competition....leave it as it is
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Alle_Gory said:
Wait, so my friends can't see the group but the group can see my friend list?

No way.
Thats the other problem...
anyone with a grudge against someone else can add one of their friends and almost instantly wreck their life. "hey look what your friend likes to learn about---with a link to sosuave."
 

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Im not a fan of this idea, I like the secrecy behind sosuave.com. Plus I like to think we have an advantage coming here, I know for a fact this site has improved my own game 100%
 

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Bad Idea. Sosuave is not a social forum where people come to socialize. It is a place for self-improvement on yourself. If you want find someone in your neighborhood to socialize with, use facebook or myspace.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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blackhatter said:
I think whoever sets it up should set it as a secret group.. i wouldn't want women knowing I go online for dating advice!
Oops. :whistle: I think a lot of women would find it endearing. :) Besides, who cares what they think??
 

penkitten

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fellas... use the search button
there has been an ongoing thread for years, that contains the whereabouts of all members in case you wanna meet up and wing together.
i believe eternal wrote it.
 

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I've told a few ppl doesnt seems to make much difference.
Most guys I told are very AFC friends and dont wanna read.. only dude I know who was interested already was good. The few women I told about it found it very interesting. But yah aint want my identity up either.. ppl who dont know you might get the wrong idea..
 

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Making a facebook group with regards to this is totally redundant! Girls would be able to access our minds and the next thing you know it's even harder to get a girl!

That's why Sosuave even f**kin' exists! Everything you pretty much need to know or ask about can be done here!

Case closed.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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