"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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Sometimes, it really IS IMPOSSIBLE to CLOSE

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I know we get angry at ourselves for "blown" opportunities, but sometimes due to the time constraint or context of the situation; I think it is impossible sometimes for something to come out of an encounter with a woman.

I had one happen to me the other day in Dunkin Donuts and I am sure some of you can relate.

I buy my coffee and proceed to milk/sugar section.

Young girl (early to mid 20's)....looks to her left as I approach and gives me a little smile (she was also at same station). I am 36, BTW, but look 30. :cheer:


I don't say anything to her in those five seconds (what could I say)?

She walks out and I walk out behind her.

She holds the door open for me twice, I say "thanks and thanks again". Each time she held the door open she looked back at me and smiled.

She goes to her car and I go to mine, end of story.


Now, even If I said something like..".Hmmm, weather is cloudy, windy today" to her or something else, even if she found me attractive, she would of just laughed and said yeah and got into her car and drove off. End of Story.

If I ran up to her and said, "Hi, my name is so and so"--I would of looked like a desperate freak.


So in short, this girl found me attractive it seems based on her smiling, but the time we had to interact was way too short for anything to come out of it.

Agree of disagree?
 

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totally disagree.

you had ample time to say 'Hi, how u doin?'

the response you got from that would have told you all you needed to know.

if she liked you she would have continued the chat.. if she didn't, she wouldn't. end of.
 

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Agreed, happens all the time. To pick up every single girl you ever meet in every situation is a myth sung by the PUA community to get you to buy their never ending techniques to do so. And you're right, it does reek of desperation. If you were at a party and this situation arose, by all means, you gotta roll with it. She's cute, she's giving you smiles, you start a convo. But in a Dunkin Donuts where everyone's in and out, car's waiting, maybe a bf in it, you gotta let it go. Just be happy some cute chick found you attractive.
 

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sylvester the cat said:
totally disagree.

you had ample time to say 'Hi, how u doin?'

the response you got from that would have told you all you needed to know.

if she liked you she would have continued the chat.. if she didn't, she wouldn't. end of.

Okay, I agree with you there, but........

Even if I said that....this girl DOES NOT know me, I am a stranger. We might of talked for 30 seconds as she went through the door and to her car, but how do you get a phone number when you only talked to a girl for 30 seconds, 1 minute, etc. It is wierd!
 

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SL2012 said:
Okay, I agree with you there, but........

Even if I said that....this girl DOES NOT know me, I am a stranger. We might of talked for 30 seconds as she went through the door and to her car, but how do you get a phone number when you only talked to a girl for 30 seconds, 1 minute, etc. It is wierd!
yeah, that's kool and the gang, but the fact remains you never did talk to her so you will never know and that is my point.

you're never going to close with every girl you approach and that's just life. but if you're going with the mindset that you're not going to close because of this and that then you're not going to approach and thus....you're never going to close. capisce?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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SL2012 said:
Okay, I agree with you there, but........

Even if I said that....this girl DOES NOT know me, I am a stranger. We might of talked for 30 seconds as she went through the door and to her car, but how do you get a phone number when you only talked to a girl for 30 seconds, 1 minute, etc. It is wierd!
if she liked you enough she might've stayed and talked with you for like 10 minutes outside of her car instead of leaving immediately
 

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you just wimped out man thats all, you could have said hi and stopped her, or asked her where she was going off to
 

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Can't count how many times this has happened to me, and I always kick myself after. Gotta remember that if she finds you attractive she'd most likely be happy to have a quick convo. If she doesn't then she'll think you're a creep and just leave.
 

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disagree totally. Your confidence is not high at the moment is all. If you want something you go for it.excuses are just that. excuses. What stopped you from saying "hi/ excuse me" and then just talking casually. That would have taken you miles forward towards ur desired goal...
 

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Well of course it's impossible to close if you're not even going to approach.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

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