hahaha!perseverance said:You need a wingman like me, when I'm off my head on alcohol, I'll take a fattie for the team.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
hahaha!perseverance said:You need a wingman like me, when I'm off my head on alcohol, I'll take a fattie for the team.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
SgtSplacker said:Only thing that peeves me is the cash/sex thing. It's perfectly OK for a girl to assume you are going to pay for stuff. But bust a move on that same girl and it's like "but were friends!".
If a girl has no sexual interests in you then she should not expect you to pay for her stuff, period end of story.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
So, Rob, I know it's not what you want to hear right now, but something to reflect on is the following truth:Robert28 said:the worst one's are the one's who lead you on before and during the date making you think you're going to get some only to "change their mind" and give some excuse after you already paid and had your mind set on potentially getting some. i'd rather a girl tell me up front "listen buddy, you aren't getting no pvssy tonight! end of story!" rather then leading me on and then throw up a brick wall at the end.
I gotta tell ya it seems like these problems may be exclusive to women that have been overexposed to western culture.Atom Smasher said:Robert is being a bit negative, but I am hard pressed to argue with anything he said.
I'm trying to find a way to be less negative in my perceptions, but I face this little problem of being fairly intelligent and having a tendency toward recognizing reality. So far I have found it impossible to find some kind of mental trick to override that awareness and come to terms.
God, that red pill hurts sometimes. There is no escape from the rabbit hole.
loveshogun said:So, Rob, I know it's not what you want to hear right now, but something to reflect on is the following truth:
The least successful people complain the most.
This was something I realized when I looked at all the successful, cool, smooth guys that I hung out with. They never had anything to complain about, ever. Even something that they were going through, where I would be like "man, that sucks, I would hate that situation" - they're just cool with it all. Doesn't affect them. With everything in life, they just do what they need to do and they're done with it.
You have valid points. But, somewhere out there, these guys are transcending your valid points. They're too busy being awesome and getting into hot ladies' underthings to notice the BS of lower quality girls.
Rant however much you need to for the next 24 hours. After that, be one of those cool guys who aren't caught up in the BS.
If women get under your skin and bother you, maybe you should focus more on something that isn't women.Robert28 said:lol not much bothers me in life, honestly, except women and the type of stuff i've listed. that stuff gets under my skin. i don't know why it just does, always has.
no you have me all wrong. i don't have a vendeta against ALL women, just the types i listed about. i know TONS of gals who are pretty cool and i get along just great with them. most are married or are dating my friends though. sure, there are a few i've had encounters with that i'd like to punch in the jaw, and deservedly so.loveshogun said:If women get under your skin and bother you, maybe you should focus more on something that isn't women.
Not trying to be sarcastic, but you know, if you literally feel like punching women (not a specific one, but pretty much all women), then I think you might have some issues you gotta work out.
No big. Just do what you gotta do. Figure it out, and try not to get yourself arrested.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Men can be slick too Robert. If you sense gold digger vibes through a dinner date, eat and run for the hills. Find an excuse to dip out. I've had to do this a few times.Robert28 said:no you have me all wrong. i don't have a vendeta against ALL women, just the types i listed about. i know TONS of gals who are pretty cool and i get along just great with them. most are married or are dating my friends though. sure, there are a few i've had encounters with that i'd like to punch in the jaw, and deservedly so.
CuriousGirl said:Tell you what, I'll let you punch me in the face when you truly understand women and how comically contradictory that top-10 post was.
You need to calm down, it's only dating, it's only women, it's not like winning the lottery and dropping the ticket down a drain.Robert28 said:that's always women's excuse. "but guys do the same things!". bullsh!t. maybe you should try understanding men, truly and not just what Cosmo tells you.
I agree with most of the other ones, but I disagree with this one. What if you're a female and the guys who are physically attractive are all wimps and don'tRobert28 said:3. I hate women that are hot but date ugly guys. I don't know why I hate it but it just pisses me off. wtf are they thinking? are they blind? I consider myself a 7 but at least I have standards. you'll never see me with a fattie on my arm just because she has a nice personality. I also hate fit women who constantly date fat out of shape guys. what is that all about?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.