"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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something to watch out for

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this forum does a great job pumping the "NEXT" attitude

be careful not to next too soon - I was the worst at it, one call, if she didnt call back or I didnt feel it I'd dump


I let some really cute girls go.. yeah ideally you'd have her call you back but you never know when something resurfaces, dont burn bridges.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Agreed there is such a thing as nexting too soon.


But dont put the girl in a pedestral either, just relax and have fun :rockon:
 

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Gona have to agree on this.

There are good reasons for nexting straight away, and bad reasons.

Example of bad reason, and this is completely hypothetical right here:

After a month of dating (peak time for premeditated test)...
Girl: 'Hey would you mind if i take my ex to a family party?'
Bad response: - next.

Mans response: 'why?'
Her: 'Ummm just.. why? would that bother you...?????'
Mans response: 'No, but why would you go to a party with your ex?'
Her: 'What do you mean, we're just friends ?????!!!!'
Mans response: 'If you still wana hang out with him then get back together'
Her: 'Nooo, its not like that, he's actually a weener. I only asked because he's very good friends with my parents and works for my dads company!'
Mans response: 'Well thats ok in that case, have fun xoxo'

Unless you have 5 girlfriends on the go, i doubt theres a need to next a girl for that. Showing that you dont care about anything and gaining her interest should be number 1 on the list. Let her worry about remaining faithful and gaining your approval, not you!
 

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Amazing said:
this forum does a great job pumping the "NEXT" attitude

be careful not to next too soon - I was the worst at it, one call, if she didnt call back or I didnt feel it I'd dump


I let some really cute girls go.. yeah ideally you'd have her call you back but you never know when something resurfaces, dont burn bridges.
Good point. It's all about manipulation and if you can manipulate hot girls to be with you then you have the game won. Who gives a sh*t if they don't abide by the DJ "rules". If you can convice a cute broad to get naked, that's all that counts.
 

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Szyzzlin said:
Good point. It's all about manipulation and if you can manipulate hot girls to be with you then you have the game won. Who gives a sh*t if they don't abide by the DJ "rules". If you can convice a cute broad to get naked, that's all that counts.
WRONG! it's not about manipulating women into bed. It's about not bowing down,kissing her AZZ etc. JUST for tail. Tail is about 4th on my list of things to do[my kids,my job,my investments]. What it is about is respect. If she doesn't respect you, you need to respect yourself enough to get rid of her. IF you can't respect yourself with women,then you can't respect yourself in business or the rest of life.
If you want to use women like you'd use your hand,fine. manipulate them-fine,they do it to us all the time.BUT will you be able to respect yourself?Is the habit of manipulation a switch you can turn on or off? I'd take less sex and the self respect that allows me to make 200k+ a year. My patients KNOW I'm not trying to get one over on them;tell them what they need to have done,then it's their problem.

The GF who wanted to spend time with me during finals week during Dental school-gone. Still have the DDS degree.[some guys flunked out because they had to spend too much time with the GF-THEN she dumped them]Ex wife that drove me nuts and interfered with my productivity at the office-gone. Still have the dental office.[a dentist in town is probably going to lose his-he couldn't say no to the bigger house before the crash]

These forums are about living life as a man. Success in business-everyone teaches. We are teaching success with women,but not at the expense of your self respect or other areas of life. Nexting prevents you from wasting TIME you could use more productively[on other women,on exercise,on your school work,or on your business]. If you want to call her twice-fine. Just not 20 times.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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sodbuster said:
WRONG! it's not about manipulating women into bed. It's about not bowing down,kissing her AZZ etc. JUST for tail. Tail is about 4th on my list of things to do[my kids,my job,my investments]. What it is about is respect. If she doesn't respect you, you need to respect yourself enough to get rid of her. IF you can't respect yourself with women,then you can't respect yourself in business or the rest of life.
If you want to use women like you'd use your hand,fine. manipulate them-fine,they do it to us all the time.BUT will you be able to respect yourself?Is the habit of manipulation a switch you can turn on or off? I'd take less sex and the self respect that allows me to make 200k+ a year. My patients KNOW I'm not trying to get one over on them;tell them what they need to have done,then it's their problem.

The GF who wanted to spend time with me during finals week during Dental school-gone. Still have the DDS degree.[some guys flunked out because they had to spend too much time with the GF-THEN she dumped them]Ex wife that drove me nuts and interfered with my productivity at the office-gone. Still have the dental office.[a dentist in town is probably going to lose his-he couldn't say no to the bigger house before the crash]

These forums are about living life as a man. Success in business-everyone teaches. We are teaching success with women,but not at the expense of your self respect or other areas of life. Nexting prevents you from wasting TIME you could use more productively[on other women,on exercise,on your school work,or on your business]. If you want to call her twice-fine. Just not 20 times.


yeah, I don't take BS really. I actually don't call back or text pretty often if I don't like the way they act, but they act really good when they sense this :)

it's when they see that they got you that's when they become jerks.. so be like the wind- here this moment, might be gone at the next one


South Dakota eh? Know Chris Kelly by any chance, deals in exotics there.
 

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Sodbuster for the win!!

You might loose the occasional salvagable chick by nexting too early....but...

The grief you will save yourself from by nexting early always will outweigh the p*ssy you might get if you stay involved with her BS too long....

Not to mention the self respect you also keep...

There's always more p*ssy

Over and Out.
 

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Nope, don't know him. It's a fairly big state geographically. Population?not as much.
 
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