"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Something to keep in mind with online dating

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Personally, I don't do it. I was curious about it though. Is it an untapped resource? A gold mine? What's my competition like online?

I got a female friend to make a really simple profile on match.com. Her profile got approved on Sunday. Here is a link:

http://www.match.com/profile/showprofile.aspx?ortp=1&TP=U&uid=AIepraJprzz9TD05OVrfUg==&lid=21

She's gotten 35 emails and over 100 winks since it got approved. It's crazy, about half came on the first night and shes been getting a bunch more each day. Could you imagine if it were this easy for a guy?

After she gets 50 emails, we're going to use the free 3 day trial and read through them to see what these guys are saying.

Anyways, I've learned that if I'm going to even think about attempting any online stuff, I'd better have a damn good pic and a really "sticky" profile.

Not sure if it's worth it though, any good looking girl can hop on and make a profile and be flooded with guys 1 day after. Crazy. I think I'd rather just get out there and approach.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Veridin

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Wow, your friend is very pretty. And she is smiling and looks like a nice person, too. I can imagine she gets many messages. She looks very young; I would have guessed eighteen from that picture, but I am bad at guessing people's age.

Women get more messages of course, because the men are more eager. And when the women get so many messages, they don't need to send messages to new men. So that is why men have to do all the work. But that's normal. Like how the male peacock has to show off his colors to the female. Women hold most of the cards in the beginning of the game.

But I digress. What I wanted to say about online dating is: it's one more venue. It is neither fantastic nor worthless. Yes, there are good experiences. Yes, there are bad experiences. Just like trying to meet someone at the pub, at the gym, at work, or in school. People tend to hold up online dating to much more scrutiny because it's new and different. But like everything else, it is a mixed bag. Anyway, I am glad it exists, because there are many people who work all day and who don't go to college anymore where there are hundreds of girls to meet. Online dating adds to the number of possibilities you have.
 

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Probably half of them women on those sites won't even read your message/look at your profile, simply because they have so many messages. If they do, they are quick to judge, and you'd have a significantly better chance of success in real life. The majority of men doing online dating are simply too afraid to approach in real life, so they rely on the faceless internet even though it offers far less chance of success. If you don't face your fears you will never get over them.
 

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This is the lazy man's way to getting women. You should never put high expectations on the Internet. I'm not really much of an "approach" person, but more of an opportunist. I'd approach if i get a decent woman thrown in front of me. Well, if you're feeling bored and want to do some experimenting, there's no harm. I've actually gotten a few numbers online, and dated some of them. I guess you would have more success with the average-looking women this way.
 

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Online dating strongly favors women. Not particularly attractive women will get lots of attention that they wouldn't get in real life (on the street, at work, in a bar/club, etc.). A lot of guys probably just do it because it doesn't take a lot of effort.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Frank_Tartaglia

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I've used the internet to get dates and it really isn't that tough, it's a bit of a numbers game though. For every ten e-mails you send out you'll only get a one or two in return.

It's also important to remember that new profiles are shown first in the searches so after about a week or she'll receive fewer e-mails. I've posted a couple of fake female profiles online and found that in the first week the profile got a ton of e-mail, but after that it began to trail off.

Of course you shouldn't let any of this turn you off to using the internet to get dates. Personally I've found more success online than I have found offline.
 

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I think you all are missing probably the greatest part of this whole idea....it says she is looking for someone who speaks english, and is between 3 ft and 8 ft tall :crackup:
 

Veridin

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Captain said:
The majority of men doing online dating are simply too afraid to approach in real life, so they rely on the faceless internet even though it offers far less chance of success. If you don't face your fears you will never get over them.
LOL Bull. I have done online dating, and I am not afraid to approach women in real life. But I work a lot, and so do my friends, and there isn't always a chance to get out and search for single women to come on to.

Now, I am sure that if you have crappy pics, you don't have much luck online, and so you need to vent. Okay. But don't make stupid generalizations about those of us who don't have the same unluck. These days more people find partners online than through the pub, which I am all for - why would the pub be a better place, more likely to yield a high-quality result? That assumption is stupid. Likewise, to think that the limited supply at the average workplace is better.
 
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