Hey everyone,
Longtime lurker, first time poster here. A lot of great advice here, most of it has definitely improved me game. Unfortunately, I am currently entrapped in a circle of frustration (with dating, etc.) and need some tips on how to get out of it.
Some background on my "game" and dating: I've never had a serious girlfriend (I am a college senior). In high school, I was a scrawny AFC who was a pushover when it came to girls. I was rejected so many times, in so many ways, that nothing is new to me (I guess that's a positive). One girl preferred to skip Prom than go with me. When I got to college, I was going to change myself for the better. From the moment I stepped on campus, I made it a priority to go to the gym a few days each week. Three years ago, I was the little scrawny kid. Now, people think I'm on steroids :crackup: or ask me to train them. Mentally, I don't take sh!t from people. I'm a lot mentally tougher than I used to be too. Despite the self-improvements, I haven't had much success with girls.
I have flaws, sure. I overthink, I can't dance, I'm not the quickest guy when it comes to starting kino, and escalating is not a strength. I have more closer friends at home than at school. However, I don't feel these elements alone would completely halt my game. Positively, I speak well (good conversationalist), I'm outgoing, have a sense of humor, can think on my feet and can establish control of a situation. Physically, I feel I look decently well (though no Brad Pitt). Overall, I am happy with who I am. What frustrates me is that I see guys with NO GAME and not much in the looks have at least SOME success with girls. I have one friend who simply gets drunk and harasses a girl, and somehow is successful some of the time. A former roommate I had rarely spoke and barely left the room...he had a gf. I feel if they can do it, so can I. But why haven't I?
That's why I'm posting here.
I have two friends in two different places who are good with girls. They will both let me know if there's something glaringly wrong in my game. They've seen it all - girls that flake on me, girls that will try to use me just for attention, girls that try to make me jealous for w/e reason, girls who I connect with once and then it's gone. I was hanging out with one of these two guys at a bar last night. After a girl I know (who frequents this bar) says she was at another bar that night, my friend instantly says, "I don't get it - you hold yourself so well, you can talk to anyone with a smile, you don't look bad at all...you may be the unluckiest guy with girls I have ever met."
I am not trying to establish an ego here, but I feel good about myself. I guess, in short (with the background provided)...I seem to have no overwhelming weak spots in my game (some little ones, but nothing huge), but I can't find success with girls, no matter what I do. Do you guys have any tips to break the mold? Due to where I used to be, I can apparently motivate others to get up and do their thing. This time, I need a little direction in why I have been in a rut and what's best to do from here.
Longtime lurker, first time poster here. A lot of great advice here, most of it has definitely improved me game. Unfortunately, I am currently entrapped in a circle of frustration (with dating, etc.) and need some tips on how to get out of it.
Some background on my "game" and dating: I've never had a serious girlfriend (I am a college senior). In high school, I was a scrawny AFC who was a pushover when it came to girls. I was rejected so many times, in so many ways, that nothing is new to me (I guess that's a positive). One girl preferred to skip Prom than go with me. When I got to college, I was going to change myself for the better. From the moment I stepped on campus, I made it a priority to go to the gym a few days each week. Three years ago, I was the little scrawny kid. Now, people think I'm on steroids :crackup: or ask me to train them. Mentally, I don't take sh!t from people. I'm a lot mentally tougher than I used to be too. Despite the self-improvements, I haven't had much success with girls.
I have flaws, sure. I overthink, I can't dance, I'm not the quickest guy when it comes to starting kino, and escalating is not a strength. I have more closer friends at home than at school. However, I don't feel these elements alone would completely halt my game. Positively, I speak well (good conversationalist), I'm outgoing, have a sense of humor, can think on my feet and can establish control of a situation. Physically, I feel I look decently well (though no Brad Pitt). Overall, I am happy with who I am. What frustrates me is that I see guys with NO GAME and not much in the looks have at least SOME success with girls. I have one friend who simply gets drunk and harasses a girl, and somehow is successful some of the time. A former roommate I had rarely spoke and barely left the room...he had a gf. I feel if they can do it, so can I. But why haven't I?
That's why I'm posting here.
I am not trying to establish an ego here, but I feel good about myself. I guess, in short (with the background provided)...I seem to have no overwhelming weak spots in my game (some little ones, but nothing huge), but I can't find success with girls, no matter what I do. Do you guys have any tips to break the mold? Due to where I used to be, I can apparently motivate others to get up and do their thing. This time, I need a little direction in why I have been in a rut and what's best to do from here.