"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Someone I want just broke up, how to go for the kill?

randomshinichi

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Well, a girl whom I know (and I think I may have a chance with) just broke up. And I want a go at her despite the obvious dangers, beause I think she's a great girl.

How should I go about this? I cannot meet her until October, but I can message her. I think I should give it time (few weeks?) but not wait until October to contact her. What do you guys think?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The right kind, LTR type. High risk for me I know, but the payoff should be more than worth it.
 

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well, if she just broke up, I don't think that she wants to enter a relationship right away. So if you don't want to enter the friendzone or to be the rebound guy. I think it's better for you to be patience and wait. Meanwhile, just talk to her like a regular friend, no pressure ;)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Desdinova

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SolidGold said:
Meanwhile, just talk to her like a regular friend, no pressure ;)
WTF???

To get a girl for ANY type of relationship, you need to get her into bed as quickly as possible. If you're not fvcking her by the 4th date, you're just going to be her friend.

If you have any clue on how to flirt with a woman, you need to be doing it if you haven't already started. I flirt ASAP with ANY woman I'm interested in regardless of her relationship status. This creates one of two scenarios: 1) She dumps her current guy for you because you're more interesting and 2) She considers you as a likely candidate after her relationship has ended.

When you interact with her in person, you NEED to initiate kino. Find *any* excuse to touch her - play with her dangly earrings, put your hand on your shoulder and say "I'll be right back" when you excuse yourself, and whatever else you can think of.

If you don't have the ba11s to pull off any of the above, then you shouldn't be focusing on one particular woman. Instead, you should be going out into the field and practicing this on *every* woman you encounter.
 

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I was surprised to find this out too, but many couples in Asia actually spend several years together as friends first before even going out with each other. It is possible actually, and especially long lasting marriages result from that.

When we're together, we can't help but always talk with each other in a playful, flirty way. But if I suddenly start kinoing now, my gut tells me it will scare her away. In any case, I'm sure my intentions should be clear even without kino.
 

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randomshinichi said:
When we're together, we can't help but always talk with each other in a playful, flirty way. But if I suddenly start kinoing now, my gut tells me it will scare her away. In any case, I'm sure my intentions should be clear even without kino.
It didn't scare her away from fvcking the last guy
 

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Duh, she was single when they met. But I've never really kinoed her before, and now that she's single, she's going to notice if I suddenly change my behaviour around her. The point is to not overtly change my behaviour around her, and instead DHV under the radar.
 

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randomshinichi said:
But I've never really kinoed her before, and now that she's single, she's going to notice if I suddenly change my behaviour around her. The point is to not overtly change my behaviour around her, and instead DHV under the radar.
To get a woman, you need to take risks. If she's attracted to you, she's going to be receptive to your kino. If she's repulsed by you, displaying higher value 'under the radar' isn't going to help your lost cause.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Dont wait that long because someone will pick her up. If she just broke up, she is in EXTREME validation mode and anyone around her is a potential candidate for sex/relationship. Strike while the Iron is hot.
 
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