"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Someone I want just broke up, how to go for the kill?

randomshinichi

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Well, a girl whom I know (and I think I may have a chance with) just broke up. And I want a go at her despite the obvious dangers, beause I think she's a great girl.

How should I go about this? I cannot meet her until October, but I can message her. I think I should give it time (few weeks?) but not wait until October to contact her. What do you guys think?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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randomshinichi

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The right kind, LTR type. High risk for me I know, but the payoff should be more than worth it.
 

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well, if she just broke up, I don't think that she wants to enter a relationship right away. So if you don't want to enter the friendzone or to be the rebound guy. I think it's better for you to be patience and wait. Meanwhile, just talk to her like a regular friend, no pressure ;)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Desdinova

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SolidGold said:
Meanwhile, just talk to her like a regular friend, no pressure ;)
WTF???

To get a girl for ANY type of relationship, you need to get her into bed as quickly as possible. If you're not fvcking her by the 4th date, you're just going to be her friend.

If you have any clue on how to flirt with a woman, you need to be doing it if you haven't already started. I flirt ASAP with ANY woman I'm interested in regardless of her relationship status. This creates one of two scenarios: 1) She dumps her current guy for you because you're more interesting and 2) She considers you as a likely candidate after her relationship has ended.

When you interact with her in person, you NEED to initiate kino. Find *any* excuse to touch her - play with her dangly earrings, put your hand on your shoulder and say "I'll be right back" when you excuse yourself, and whatever else you can think of.

If you don't have the ba11s to pull off any of the above, then you shouldn't be focusing on one particular woman. Instead, you should be going out into the field and practicing this on *every* woman you encounter.
 

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I was surprised to find this out too, but many couples in Asia actually spend several years together as friends first before even going out with each other. It is possible actually, and especially long lasting marriages result from that.

When we're together, we can't help but always talk with each other in a playful, flirty way. But if I suddenly start kinoing now, my gut tells me it will scare her away. In any case, I'm sure my intentions should be clear even without kino.
 

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randomshinichi said:
When we're together, we can't help but always talk with each other in a playful, flirty way. But if I suddenly start kinoing now, my gut tells me it will scare her away. In any case, I'm sure my intentions should be clear even without kino.
It didn't scare her away from fvcking the last guy
 

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Duh, she was single when they met. But I've never really kinoed her before, and now that she's single, she's going to notice if I suddenly change my behaviour around her. The point is to not overtly change my behaviour around her, and instead DHV under the radar.
 

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randomshinichi said:
But I've never really kinoed her before, and now that she's single, she's going to notice if I suddenly change my behaviour around her. The point is to not overtly change my behaviour around her, and instead DHV under the radar.
To get a woman, you need to take risks. If she's attracted to you, she's going to be receptive to your kino. If she's repulsed by you, displaying higher value 'under the radar' isn't going to help your lost cause.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dont wait that long because someone will pick her up. If she just broke up, she is in EXTREME validation mode and anyone around her is a potential candidate for sex/relationship. Strike while the Iron is hot.
 
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