Someone explain to me why Incels are so heavily involved in discussions about game/dating/sex.

[corrector]

p.s. What does O.L.D. stand for? I keep seeing it in people's posts on here.

Online Dating.

 

[corrector]

I didn't read all of the responses but a lot. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding. And I also think that it's good to have some empathy for people who struggle in this area. I think what can happen is that the guys who seem to get nowhere with women and are lonely are stuck in a vicious cycle they desperately want out of but have a lot of external factors working against them.

Yes part of it is internal but I think the lack of good advice and good instruction on how to fix the problem is a big issue also. So they follow bad advice or maybe some good but incomplete advice mixed with bad advice. They are suffering in their situation of lack. Desperately want out. There is a stigma attached to their problem.

Despite their efforts they fail. That disappointment can turn to despair which can turn to sadness and finally can turn into anger. They've inherited bad ideas, wrong attitudes. Bad programming (which unfortunately is the norm). It's still up to them to find a way out and to do what they need to do to succeed and to not make matters worse. Unfortunately after many attempts and failures some people just give up.

The same guys who are bitter would probably be much happier if they could wave a magic wand and solve their problem. Life doesn't work that way though. Maybe instead of bashing them, we can learn to show more compassion (that could mean using "tough love"). I've seen some good ideas but also a lot of misinformation and bad ideas even among the more experienced men in the world and on here. Even many so-called players and ladies men have wrong attitudes and are clueless.

Well written post. King Charles should say something like that on his next Christmas address.

 

[SW15]

p.s. What does O.L.D. stand for? I keep seeing it in people's posts on here.

Online dating. I try not to use that term as I use tech-based dating as a catch all for both arranging dates on social media platforms like Instagram and on swipe apps.

There are still some legacy "online dating" platforms like Match and OurTime that are primarily internet browser based and mostly appeal to the 50+ age group.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

People kind of missed the point of my thread. IMO, I do not care what incels do with their lives, including being incels. I think a good chunk will never change and will continue to have behaviors that keep them incel.

What I was getting at it is how are they so obsessed with game despite admitting to themselves that, because of their genetic flaws, they will never get girls?

That is what never really clicked for me. I don't care if these dudes lock themselves in a basement and play videogames all day, I don't. I am just confused on how these dudes are involved in game discussions or obsessed with gender dynamics, female behavior, and go around telling what kinds of dudes get girls while worshiping male models themselves when they themselves failed at game. It's like they have admitted it is hopeless, they have admitted that it will never happen for them, then why continue to discuss and talk about game and female nature day in and day out.

I am talking about communities like LooksMax and a lot of these Black Pill forums. I don't get it. You failed, its over, and its hopeless, why not just move on to something else to occupy your mental space with? Go and stick with videogames or whatever. Just why continue to go around preaching about how dating works and what kinds of guys get laid and how game is pointless when you have effectively checked out?

Like why are these dudes logging in day in and day out to obsess over female behavior or any of that stuff when it is effectively something they failed to learn and successfully use to their advantage?

It isn't why are dudes incel, it's more, why are they still sticking around chatting game and preaching garbage like the black pill?

 

[corrector]

It isn't why are dudes incel, it's more, why are they still sticking around chatting game and preaching garbage like the black pill?

From what I've seen here, most guys who are preaching blackpill or chatting game are not incels, but are more likely to be sub-8 normies.

It's the people who are struggling and getting diminishing returns in OLD, getting amogged by chads/chadlites when on the field, or are dumpster-diving, or who had a high-notch past but are a shadow of their former self today that I see preaching.

People who are less likely to preach out are the chad/chadlites who are not struggling with women and sub-5 incels who already know they don't have a chance and don't care to preach about anything.