"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Some thoughts on meeting women in South Florida

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Spent most of my time honing my game in NYC area or at least that's where it all began. Spent quite a bit of time in South Florida.

Just some random thoughts:

Lots of competition out here. Lots of guys with serious money and they monopolize the market.

South florida girls lack sophistication. They do not carry the conversation at all. Very dull like fruit flies.

Decent amount of foreign women which can be nice.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Spent most of my time honing my game in NYC area or at least that's where it all began. Spent quite a bit of time in South Florida.

Just some random thoughts:

Lots of competition out here. Lots of guys with serious money and they monopolize the market.

South florida girls lack sophistication. They do not carry the conversation at all. Very dull like fruit flies.

Decent amount of foreign women which can be nice.
I've been to South Florida a few times in the last decade, especially Miami, the Brickell area
If you want to see the hottest women in America, that's where you go. Even older women are hot and would stand out anywhere in the USA but not so much in South Florida.

I will say that tricking is part of the culture in Miami, which is detrimental if you're trying to find a LTR. For fun a guy who has money and doesn't mind tricking on $200-$600 dinner dates or invite a bop to his friends' yact party and hooking up with her in the boat cabin it can be paradise but it's a recipe to end up broke fast and with an STD (these chicks are very promiscuous and will leave you for a richer guy in a heartbeat)

Nothing worse than a beaitful girl that looks like a centerfold with the conversational skills of a 5th grader, these are the types of chicks most red pillers would go crazy for and whine about on redpill podcasts but these type of women outside of their bodies are boring and very immature.

Most of these girls also do cocaine, something the forum rarely talks about, but hot chicks that live in party states tend to do party drugs. No surprise

Also every other guy is in shape down in Miami, you will not stand out having a 6pack as you will walk down the street and see guys with 8packs .

Personally, for me it's a very vain and superficial environment. When I was younger, yeah I wanted to check it out and outside of the hype it's very empty and shallow. Fun for a weekend but I would never want to live there because the people are not my tribe
 
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I would also add the one thing I've seen in South Florida unlike anywhere else is

In shape guys I'm talking buff dudes talking to flat out fat chicks. LIke Fat Fat lol

I get it guys just want to get laid but living in a 2nd tier city in the midwest you will never see an in shape guy go out of his way to approach a fat chick unless it's a fetish or something and when I say fat i"m not talking about slim thick or instagram booty model thick I'm talking flat out obese

When you're in a place where fat chicks can shoot above their weight then you know you're ****ed lol

The one thing with those guys they usually try to pump and dump these chicks but girls in Miami are hip to that so some of them probably do end up taking these girls out on dates.
 

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There was a good Miami scene thread on this forum in the past that went 11 pages.


I would also add the one thing I've seen in South Florida unlike anywhere else is

In shape guys I'm talking buff dudes talking to flat out fat chicks. LIke Fat Fat lol
This does not happen in Dallas.
 

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There was a good Miami scene thread on this forum in the past that went 11 pages.




This does not happen in Dallas.
Goes to show you how cutthroat Miami is, it's not for the faint of heart that's for sure
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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The overanalysis in this thread. SMH

Lol what @Solomon is describing reminds me of the worst aspects of both San Diego and Los Angeles. Buff dudes talking to fatties in Man Diego and the crazy competition in LA. Some interesting women in LA but narcissistic and vapid chicks everywhere in socal
 

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I live down here. It is true - literally every man and woman is in great shape. 6's out here are 10's everywhere else.

EVERY woman has some or all of the beauty procedures - tons of botox. Lips. Breasts. Ass. EVERYTHING. Guys are in great shape. I'm in pretty good shape - 48 / 185/ and I get women complimenting me ( legs haha ) . I'll also say it's a very superficial dating scene. All these women seem fake. Have money problems. Trying to one up each other . Trying to live this image of

You are also up against some guys tho that have FU money. I'm talking 100'+ boats, private jets, driving $250k+ supercars. etc. They will take a chick out and spend $5k the first time they meet on shopping to impress these girls. I've seen it first hand.

With that said I just literally dl'd Hinge and I do ZERO swiping and I just let the women swipe on me and I respond if I find them interesting and attractive. 4 dates in a week. I have plenty of options . I'm not 6' either - 5'8". You can do well here if you're good looking, in great shape, know how to dress and in the top say 3% income. But more women than not are insufferable .
 

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The overanalysis in this thread. SMH

Lol what @Solomon is describing reminds me of the worst aspects of both San Diego and Los Angeles. Buff dudes talking to fatties in Man Diego and the crazy competition in LA. Some interesting women in LA but narcissistic and vapid chicks everywhere in socal
Yeah I heard this about LA as well. I remember this bigger girl moved to my city in the midwest from LA she was doing make up for models when I was a videographer before covid. She mentioned how in LA it was easy to date as a big girl as more men where open to smashing fatties because in LA it's tough do so and of high quality. However, in the midwest she says it's more competitive and big girls don't have the options of quality men compared to LA.

The truth is an attractive guy doesn't have to dumpster dive unless he wants too or the girl is paying his bills. In places like LA and Miami it's cutthroat I feel for guys that live out there

I live down here. It is true - literally every man and woman is in great shape. 6's out here are 10's everywhere else.

EVERY woman has some or all of the beauty procedures - tons of botox. Lips. Breasts. Ass. EVERYTHING. Guys are in great shape. I'm in pretty good shape - 48 / 185/ and I get women complimenting me ( legs haha ) . I'll also say it's a very superficial dating scene. All these women seem fake. Have money problems. Trying to one up each other . Trying to live this image of

You are also up against some guys tho that have FU money. I'm talking 100'+ boats, private jets, driving $250k+ supercars. etc. They will take a chick out and spend $5k the first time they meet on shopping to impress these girls. I've seen it first hand.

With that said I just literally dl'd Hinge and I do ZERO swiping and I just let the women swipe on me and I respond if I find them interesting and attractive. 4 dates in a week. I have plenty of options . I'm not 6' either - 5'8". You can do well here if you're good looking, in great shape, know how to dress and in the top say 3% income. But more women than not are insufferable .
The dating scene is very shallow out there, you're literally competing with celebrities, rich athletes, rich guys with FU money, like you said and also scammers who make scam money.

When guys say money matter this is what they are talking about is TRICKING if you gotta lead with your wallet that's all she is going to look at you for, the same girl that is going on dates and getting 5K shopping sprees. Is the same girl that will smash a bum for free in a trailor park or traphouse. The rich guy subsidizes her lifestyle but the bum gets the box for FREE
 

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This neck of the woods runs light years ahead of Appalachia and The Rust Belt, in terms of everything from cooter quality, to the weather, to the economy

Rejoice
 

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Commenting late on this one but some thoughtful answers here.

I agree, LOTS of surgery and botox and definitely feels cut-throat.

I've had limited success here, mostly younger latin chicks in the dance scene or much older women.

TBH not very into these botox basic bimbos, they are the candy for those at the top.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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