"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Some approaching questions fresh from the field...

gimmeyofonenumba

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Went sarging at the mall today, ahhh i love it. I saw some 9's, and made plenty of EC. I have a problem though( and this has happened at least 8 times in the last week), whenever im making EC, the girl is always the first to look away, but the girl kinda seems intimidated, because i never get a smile from chicks my age that make EC with me, only MILFS, Milfs have actually smiled and winked at me. wierd... I think its because they are intimidated? just the way i walk, head high, and looking kinda serious.Thats my main problem, because it feels wierd for me to smile with teeth voluntarily. Guess I should only sarge when im really happy?

Here are some questions though:
1.if a chick is in the women's shoe dpt. at macy's or something, do you approach?
2.if a chick is with her mom do you approach(i would if she wasnt with her mom)?
3.Do you approach a chick that is walking in the same direction as you?
4.Do you approach chicks that are with a guy, but he only seems to be friends?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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1. Yes, why wouldn't you? Do you have shoeaphobia?

2. H ell yes, because that's the easiest! All you have to do is appeal with the mom and the daughter cant' say no (assuming you are not hideous looking) Try " I normally don't do this, but your daughter is very beautiful, and If it is okay with you of course, I would like to take her out sometime".

3. Why wouldn't you?

4. That I wouldn't do, because even if they are friends, you don't know if he is the "i-like-her-and-i-will-make-an-ass-of-myself" type of guy .

One day I was at the bar with a girl/friend of mine ,and a friend that I met a while back that happened to be female and her husband. A guy tried to hit on her and the husband got into a fight defending her. She told him "baby you didn't have to do that, you know i would never cheat on you" and he was like "I know you love me, but I have to protect you"... little did he know I had been t apping his wife for the last month or so, pretty constantly (i never said I was a saint).

All I am saying is that there are too many women out there to approach a man (well duh !), i mean a woman with another man.
 

MindOverMatter

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Originally posted by gimmeyofonenumba
Went sarging at the mall today, ahhh i love it. I saw some 9's, and made plenty of EC. I have a problem though( and this has happened at least 8 times in the last week), whenever im making EC, the girl is always the first to look away, but the girl kinda seems intimidated, because i never get a smile from chicks my age that make EC with me, only MILFS, Milfs have actually smiled and winked at me. wierd... I think its because they are intimidated? just the way i walk, head high, and looking kinda serious.Thats my main problem, because it feels wierd for me to smile with teeth voluntarily. Guess I should only sarge when im really happy?
Older women LOVE it when younger men give them attention and you get mad points in their book for approaching them. If a milf smiles at you, GO FOR IT.

Here are some questions though:
1.if a chick is in the women's shoe dpt. at macy's or something, do you approach?
2.if a chick is with her mom do you approach(i would if she wasnt with her mom)?
3.Do you approach a chick that is walking in the same direction as you?
4.Do you approach chicks that are with a guy, but he only seems to be friends?
1.) Yeah. It's a perfect oppurtunity for an observational comment approach.

2.) No. Girls that are in my age range have no business being with their moms in public.

3.) Yes. I've done this approach once in university. I started walking faster then her and deliberatly cut her off right in front of the classroom door, turned around and was smiling at her, and she thought I was ridiculous and was laughing and shaking her head. So the whole class we sat and were passing notes to each other, and I ended up getting her number and going out with her for about 2 months.

4.) It depends. I've done this in my university class once as well. Basically, I went to a class and saw a cute girl, but some guy was sitting right next to her. under those conditions, what do you do?

i.] Always befriend the guy first and barely pay attention to the girl (man talk). This way, he will trust you more because he wont think you're moving in on his territory, and she'll be wondering why you're not paying attention to her (this is kind of a neg for a girl, it messes with her ego). Also, by talkingto the man and ignoring her, it makes her feel like a little girl, and gives you the upper hand. Likewise, you get to find out whether they're dating, or if they're just friends/cousins/siblings/whatever.

If they were dating, I wouldn't go for it. Otherwise, I would go for it. In my situation, they were just friends.

ii.) You slowly shift attention from the guy to the girl (I did this after 3rd class I had with them).

iii.) you isolate her, and ask her out.

now of course this is very situational, but the principles remain the same. Befriend the guy first + barely pay attention to the girl, then shift attention to her, then you isolate her and go for the close.
 

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Re: Re: Some approaching questions fresh from the field...

double post.
 
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