I was at the bar last night with my friends hangin out nad playing pool. My friend Josh (natural dj) and his girlfriend Danielle here also. Now Danielle left her camera at home and was trying to convince josh to go home and get it for her. He refused, and then she tried using this ridiculous baby face and he still refused (my opinion of him raised) and she wouldnt get it herself. So then she goes to big dave. Hes a little large, hence his nickname and also a total afc. She then uses her 'female charm' to get him to go leave the bar and go to her house and pick up her camera for her. He comes back and she's all like oooooh thankyou dave your such a sweethear ::hug and kiss on cheek:: That guy is so desperate and wont stand up for himself. The way she plays him despite the fact that she has a boyfriend just makes me want to puke. Even in my afc days I never would have stooped so low as to be an errand runner for some lazy chic. What did he get out of it? A hug, oh wow he must be feeling special now. Then she ignores him for the rest of the night. Excuse me while I puke again. Ok i'm good now that I got that out of my system.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Some afcs make me want to puke
- Thread starter Kourt
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
rgeere
Master Don Juan
Yeah, I regret reading that, it makes me want to puke so bad.
The only good thing out of that is that hopefully the AFCs in this forum can read this and 1) learn what NOT to do and 2) feel better about themselves if they aren't that bad.
Though if 'big Dave' is very much like you...*sigh*
Though if 'big Dave' is very much like you...*sigh*
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
Sad thing is, to Dave, this hug and kiss on the cheek were worth the whole trip.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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The sadder part is, this is probably the most emotional satisfaction he's received from any woman in the last year.
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Big dave is only doing the logical thing to get in her favour
But when it comes to women logic goes out of the window
But when it comes to women logic goes out of the window
It's always sickening when you see someone else doing it and it's blatantly obvious how sad it is, but I was just like Big Dave for years and I didn't even know it.
There are some good threads on this board that allow us to learn from others' mistakes.
There are some good threads on this board that allow us to learn from others' mistakes.
-HPNOTIQ-
Master Don Juan
The funny thing is, we ALL could have been Big Dave in the past. Common fellas, how many times in the past did we supplicate ourselves to a woman hoping we would "score enough points" to get her to start thinking of us in a different light.
DJB to the rescue.
DJB to the rescue.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If I read this thread a year ago, I would have said it was a great thing to do - Wow he got a hug and a kiss? - She must have the hots for him!
Josh, Watch out!
Poor old NoBull... lol
Kourt, did you try advising him? warning him? giving him tips? etc?
Josh, Watch out!
Poor old NoBull... lol
Kourt, did you try advising him? warning him? giving him tips? etc?
nah, hes older than me and we aren't exactly buddy buddy, that and I dont think trying to get him into the dj way in the middle of the bar with all my friends around would be exactly a good idea
If he wanted help, I'd help him, but I guess hes satisfied with his supplication
Granted we all could have done this in the past, but I never was errand runner for chics whew
If he wanted help, I'd help him, but I guess hes satisfied with his supplication
Granted we all could have done this in the past, but I never was errand runner for chics whew