"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Some advice....(Learnt the hard way)

someperson1987

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Hi (feel free to comment)
I thought this would be useful advice here as well cause it wasn't being read much in high school discussion (i can't move it).

In four months or so high school is pretty much forever.

In Four Year

Looking back, I wish i had more guts. I found this web site two years ago but i hardly learnt anything.

In high school i didn't really have much confidence. I read alot of articles in my spare time but really didn't extract anything.
I'm not even sure why my confidence was so low. I was top of the class and quite good looking (for some reason thats rare usually at my school ). Maybe i was just too shy so i didn't really make alot friends.

Each time I met a girl i thought the exact same thing "how could a girl that pretty actually fall for me." I always thought that i didn't have enough status, i didn't have enough friend and that she might be ashamed if anyone saw us together. So hence i never really made any move. As a result, we became distanted (sigh same thing for more than a million times) and then became strangers.

Moral

I guess the moral of the story is: never ask the question i did. I thought i didn't have enough friends and hence i wasn't worthy of any girl (how dumb :S).

For those still in high school for a while, i'll tell you to stop thinking and just do it. Over analyzing kills you.I wish i had a time machine (but i dont). Stop asking does she like you or "would a girl like that actually find you attractive." Sigh i wish i never asked that question.

What Now

But hey you know, I'll never do that again and you just live and learn. I still got four years of school ahead at least so its not too late.

Sorry for big long speech, i just had to vent that out. But hey any comments is good.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I-am-someone

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This has been stated so many times it has gotten to be too much for people. They know by now.

Instead of looking for solutions for your problems in articles, boards and other such things, look for the solutions within yourself.
You're obviously thinking the wrong way about this. You have to realize that you should just be trying to connect with a girl. If she doesn't like you "that way", so be it, at least you've got a good connection with that person. If she turns out to be a total b!tch after you've connected with her personality, it will be all too eazy to eject and get rid of her.
I've been connecting with people everywhere I go lately, and it has certainly made my life more enjoyable. Just talk to people, feel what they feel and imagine yourself in their place. It makes you feel better, no matter what.

Don't worry about adhering to the rules on these boards until after you have mastered the skill to truly get into someone else's skin. This is the basis of everything, without it you are nowhere. Be open about yourself, let them be open about theirselves. Connect.
 

Albion4

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Originally posted by someperson1987
Hi (feel free to comment)
I thought this would be useful advice here as well cause it wasn't being read much in high school discussion (i can't move it).

In four months or so high school is pretty much forever.

In Four Year

Looking back, I wish i had more guts. I found this web site two years ago but i hardly learnt anything.

In high school i didn't really have much confidence. I read alot of articles in my spare time but really didn't extract anything.
I'm not even sure why my confidence was so low. I was top of the class and quite good looking (for some reason thats rare usually at my school ). Maybe i was just too shy so i didn't really make alot friends.

Each time I met a girl i thought the exact same thing "how could a girl that pretty actually fall for me." I always thought that i didn't have enough status, i didn't have enough friend and that she might be ashamed if anyone saw us together. So hence i never really made any move. As a result, we became distanted (sigh same thing for more than a million times) and then became strangers.

Moral

I guess the moral of the story is: never ask the question i did. I thought i didn't have enough friends and hence i wasn't worthy of any girl (how dumb :S).

For those still in high school for a while, i'll tell you to stop thinking and just do it. Over analyzing kills you.I wish i had a time machine (but i dont). Stop asking does she like you or "would a girl like that actually find you attractive." Sigh i wish i never asked that question.

What Now

But hey you know, I'll never do that again and you just live and learn. I still got four years of school ahead at least so its not too late.

Sorry for big long speech, i just had to vent that out. But hey any comments is good.
Dude, you're only 18. The best times are about to come. Just remember what you said up there and use it.

-Al
 
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