Solo pretty boy ?

[Zarky]

Yes, women may be trying to get the bigger better deal, money, looks, status, etc. However, you have to understand that a woman's decision is not based on logic, but rather emotion.

Standard MRA claptrap.

Fact is, everybody is trying to get a bigger, better deal. Guys who are lowly shmucks always want to date the hottest girls in town. And if her dad's loaded, so much the better.

The issue with manosphere stuff and all the BS they push is they fail to understand that wanting to get more than you give is not just a "woman" thing, it's a "human" thing. And in fact all mammals are greedy f*cks. Watch a dog around a chocolate bar. And boiling it down even further life itself is greedy.

It's this shortsightedness that makes me laugh in derision at the men's rights people. They think women are the bad guy when life itself -- and everything we require to stay alive -- is.

Furthermore, separating "logic" and "emotions" is beyond shortsighted. They both involve all parts of the brain, from the neocortex to the hindbrain, the amygdala, the hippocampus, etc. They are both based in reality; emotions are merely old-school processes that drive our bodies to act. Emotions are not divorced from logic nor vice-versa. They are complementary.

I constantly feel here like I'm a college professor talking to a bunch of retarded baboons. Y'all just know so little about biology and psychology and yet you blab blab blab like you're experts. It's ridiculous.

 

[BeDJ]

Zarky is talking about the bigger better deal while typing on a rented couch? The blind is leading the deaf.

I know it’s hard for you to understand, gender aside, but hear me out. Men are logical creatures driven by sex drive. If we can bang a sexier women that has higher financial assets, we will. We do not let our emotions get in the way of things. Your misandric view says women are bad, I never alluded to that.

Are you a professor of liberal arts?

 

[AAAgent]

If men are ran by logic. Then how the **** we are constantly gettting butthurt/cryin (like here on forum) about every single failure. Not to mention the 'domination' factor.

If we are that logical, then why do we still crave for womens affection etc.

Why not simply pay a b1tch to give a birth to your child and end with it ?


Oh yes, because humans are by nature emotional creatures, but men are by societies rules conditioned to repress emotions.

Men are more rational than women are. By being rational on a more consistent basis, we make it easier for ourselves to make logical decisions. Women let emotions cloud their judgement and therefore make irrational ---> illogical decisions more frequently.

We both have emotions, men are just better and keeping them at a maintainable level on the general level.

 

[zinc4]

ONLY engaged. Ok, go use that excuse next time you are engaged to one of your lady boy boyfriends and you start getting phone numbers of other lady boys down at the gay bars you like to frequent under cover of night in the seedier part of Taipei.

You're a stalker.


&


You like lady boys.


Now.....go get your shinebox.

Listen you roided up piece of white trash....I don't mess with ladyboys and i don't like brothels...you can't just completely make up sh&t about someone and slander them like what you are doing.

Now go whack off to pumping iron with Arnold while you stroke your onities shrine with your other hand......you gutless WKPOS.

 

[zinc4]

See, I am often accused of being a WK on this forum by some. Nothing could be further from the truth. If ANYONE should be pissed off at women, its me after all of that. But I know that not all women are alike and you should try and treat everyone with respect as long as they respect you back. So anyone who says I am a WK, like a couple here do, because I say you should run away from a violent DV situation? They really don't know what they are talking about. Lets say you fight back. Then what? You get put in jail for DV at best, and at worst assault or attempted murder. You spend a year trying to get out of it and paying endless amounts of cash. IT IS NOT WORTH IT. It is not worth it just to say you were a man and had to defend yourself. When a system is so slanted against you, you are much better off retreating, regrouping, and living to fight another day when things are more fairly balanced. Because the way things are set up right now? Men have no shot of ever getting a fair shake in DV issues. And remember, hell has no fury like a woman's scorn. IF they can fawk you while they are in that pissed off mode? They will. Always remember that.

No one is saying you are a WK soley based on this...it is every other thing that you post.....

And that is a nice little sob story....but i have been through worse...as many others have...everyone here is well aware the justice system is slanted toward women.....go whine to a woman's support group...

 

[backbreaker]

No one is saying you are a WK soley based on this...it is every other thing that you post.....

And that is a nice little sob story....but i have been through worse...as many others have...everyone here is well aware the justice system is slanted toward women.....go whine to a woman's support group...

That's the point


none of us got here, or came here beucase we had just glowing success with women and were so happy with our successes that we decided to randomly look up how to get girls on google and come here. You are here for 2 reasons one of the 2

1. you can't get laid
2. you got treated like **** by someone


one of the 2 fellas. I was 2. I got treated like ****. I've been used, financially, emotionally. I've wasted time. I've been accused of sexually assaulting a chick I never touched. I've had cops come to my house after a woman threw a glass vase at my head who I just broke up with, and try to arrest ME lol. I routinley deal with recovering addicts who are dealing with baby mommas who are pure trash who want nothing but to cause as much hurt as possible to the baby's fathers.


You can either do 2 things. you can ***** about it or you can put on your big boy underwear and deal with it. In recovery we call it dealing with life on life's terms. This is life's terms. It is what it is. I can't change ****. all I can do is accecpt it for what it is and go about my day.


The day I start blaming everyone else in the world for my problems is the day I have one foot back in the dope house. No one is responsbile for your well being, your happiness, your bitterness, your sadness, your joy, your pain, your hurt, your sorrow, your everything, except for you. when you ***** and complain about things, you are basically saying that someone is not acting like you believe they should be acting and not providing you with the results that you think they should be providing you with. You might be justified but it doesn't change anything.

If I'd had taken the **** women yeah route my wife wouldn't have given me the time the day she isn't having that ****. Any woman worth a real **** isn't going to have it.

You can't be so afraid to experience pain, that you never allow yourself to experience joy. I seriously doubt most of the men on this forum have ever been truly, happy with a woman. Not AFC white knight happy, but a normal, happy mutually benefiting relationship. It's a beautiful thing. There are some very very ****ed up women out there. You know what there are some pretty vucked up men out there as well so what. I know a chick, who is actually pretty cute, who is head over heels for this dude who just won't get his **** together, and there is no thign "alpha" about him he's jobless, virtually homeless, he's not bad looking but he's a peice of ****. knocks up the girl and refuses to be a dad, then uses her wheneverhe wants some drug money so he can go get some pills. there are some pathetic ass men out here. There are soe pathetic ass women out there as well


When I was single a few women, when I was spinning plates would tell me " you are giong to die old and miserable eventually you need someone" and i never agreed with that. I dont' believe in shaming a man into settlibng down.

however, this path that a lot of you are on, are going to be miserable for no other reason than you dont' allow yourself to be happy. there really are some wonderful women out there if you get out there and actually try to meet them in the real world and give them a clean slate. i know a girl whose 28 and has been married to her husband since she was 18 and she's a legit 8.5, legit. leggy, blonde, classy, very very nice personality, she's wife material and is rock solid in love with her husband. not every woman is what this forum makes them out to be.

but that's beucase we look at women through the lens of hurt.

I've never believed this more than i believed it now, but when you get off drugs they tell you no relationships for a year. it sucks. trust me lol. but you need to work on you before you can bring smoeoe else in your life beucase you aren't right. you can't emotionally handle a relationship

i feel. that's what is needed here a lot. a lot of guys come here and they want to jump right into instant gratification mode and they are too emotionally damamged to look at women from a non objective manner.

i went 3 years without dating a girl and it took me another 2-3 to really get what was being said on this site and blossom into the man i am now. This **** is an inside job. Stop looking for outside influences.

 

[cordoncordon]

That's the point


none of us got here, or came here beucase we had just glowing success with women and were so happy with our successes that we decided to randomly look up how to get girls on google and come here. You are here for 2 reasons one of the 2

1. you can't get laid
2. you got treated like **** by someone


one of the 2 fellas. I was 2. I got treated like ****. I've been used, financially, emotionally. I've wasted time. I've been accused of sexually assaulting a chick I never touched. I've had cops come to my house after a woman threw a glass vase at my head who I just broke up with, and try to arrest ME lol. I routinley deal with recovering addicts who are dealing with baby mommas who are pure trash who want nothing but to cause as much hurt as possible to the baby's fathers.


You can either do 2 things. you can ***** about it or you can put on your big boy underwear and deal with it. In recovery we call it dealing with life on life's terms. This is life's terms. It is what it is. I can't change ****. all I can do is accecpt it for what it is and go about my day.


The day I start blaming everyone else in the world for my problems is the day I have one foot back in the dope house. No one is responsbile for your well being, your happiness, your bitterness, your sadness, your joy, your pain, your hurt, your sorrow, your everything, except for you. when you ***** and complain about things, you are basically saying that someone is not acting like you believe they should be acting and not providing you with the results that you think they should be providing you with. You might be justified but it doesn't change anything.

If I'd had taken the **** women yeah route my wife wouldn't have given me the time the day she isn't having that ****. Any woman worth a real **** isn't going to have it.

You can't be so afraid to experience pain, that you never allow yourself to experience joy. I seriously doubt most of the men on this forum have ever been truly, happy with a woman. Not AFC white knight happy, but a normal, happy mutually benefiting relationship. It's a beautiful thing. There are some very very ****ed up women out there. You know what there are some pretty vucked up men out there as well so what. I know a chick, who is actually pretty cute, who is head over heels for this dude who just won't get his **** together, and there is no thign "alpha" about him he's jobless, virtually homeless, he's not bad looking but he's a peice of ****. knocks up the girl and refuses to be a dad, then uses her wheneverhe wants some drug money so he can go get some pills. there are some pathetic ass men out here. There are soe pathetic ass women out there as well


When I was single a few women, when I was spinning plates would tell me " you are giong to die old and miserable eventually you need someone" and i never agreed with that. I dont' believe in shaming a man into settlibng down.

however, this path that a lot of you are on, are going to be miserable for no other reason than you dont' allow yourself to be happy. there really are some wonderful women out there if you get out there and actually try to meet them in the real world and give them a clean slate. i know a girl whose 28 and has been married to her husband since she was 18 and she's a legit 8.5, legit. leggy, blonde, classy, very very nice personality, she's wife material and is rock solid in love with her husband. not every woman is what this forum makes them out to be.

but that's beucase we look at women through the lens of hurt.

I've never believed this more than i believed it now, but when you get off drugs they tell you no relationships for a year. it sucks. trust me lol. but you need to work on you before you can bring smoeoe else in your life beucase you aren't right. you can't emotionally handle a relationship

i feel. that's what is needed here a lot. a lot of guys come here and they want to jump right into instant gratification mode and they are too emotionally damamged to look at women from a non objective manner.

i went 3 years without dating a girl and it took me another 2-3 to really get what was being said on this site and blossom into the man i am now. This **** is an inside job. Stop looking for outside influences.

Very well said BB.

IMO this website over the years has become so infested with just downright nasty, jaded, angry men from what they perceive as abuse by women most of their lives that they tend to lash out any anyone that they interpret as being happy or ecstatic with the woman and relationship that person is in.

The reason why I do not hold any deep seated resentment against women, despite many times where I should be, is because while rare, there are good women out there. You just need to be patient enough to find them. Not to mention a good enough catch to date and then keep them. There is nothing better imo than being in a relationship where you can trust your partner 100% and where she brings you happiness from just being around her, no matter what you are doing. And where she feels the same about you.

In my entire life of dating, of which I have dated 100's and 100's of women, I have met 2, maybe 3 girls who I can say did that for me. Sadly, one of them did not in the end feel the same about me, and the other had some other external issues that prevented us from taking things further. My fiance now though is a person, and this may sound cliche, but someone who I have waited my entire life for. We are literally around each other 99% of the time other then when we are working. And we love it. We don't fight, we don't bicker, we can tease each other in sarcastic ways without the other getting offended or hurt because we know that deep down we have each others back no matter what. We work out everyday together. We eat together. Go out together. Go on vacations together. I am headed to MI for a family visit in a month to see my brother and cousin and that is the first time she won't go with me on vacation somewhere. (Which is fine because it will be a guys thing anyway.)

My point is in practically every other relationship I have been in, half the time was spent either away from my partner, or thinking of ways to be away from her. I wanted to spend time with my friends or family or even alone at the horse track or whatever. But when you find the right person, and it is rare, you aren't ashamed or embarrassed to brag about her. To be with her all the time. It makes you proud actually. I know this is a hard concept to grasp, and I had a hard time at first too. But its just the idea that you have someone that, and again this may sound cliche or corny, that completes who you are as a person. It really is a strange feeling and I hope everyone here gets to experience it sooner rather than later.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

O Lord. I'm ****ing up. Just ****ing up.

I did something so messed up I'm not even going to post it here.

But me and her chilled today and just went out for lunch. After lunch she was dropping me back off at my apartment and her phone rang. I was like who is that and she wouldn't tell me. After grabbing her phone I looked through her text and she was texting two dudes!!!!!! Even talking to one on the phone.


Now she's the one "cheating"


WTF. LMAO.

 

[backbreaker]

lol you act like you are suprised.

this is what girls who haul off and hit dudes for no reason do. \
if you'd stop thinking with your **** and use your real head for 5 mintues you'd see whatn eeds to be done here

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Yea backbreaker. You've never steered me wrong. and you called it earlier in the thread.

 

[zinc4]

O Lord. I'm ****ing up. Just ****ing up.

I did something so messed up I'm not even going to post it here.

But me and her chilled today and just went out for lunch. After lunch she was dropping me back off at my apartment and her phone rang. I was like who is that and she wouldn't tell me. After grabbing her phone I looked through her text and she was texting two dudes!!!!!! Even talking to one on the phone.


Now she's the one "cheating"


WTF. LMAO.

Hey man...don't get offended by this....but someone needs to give you a good slap in the face to wake you up....stop messing with this girl! Go move to a big city and bang random girls until your heart is content....you are only 22 and acting like a super AFC over one chick and are engaged to her....a chick who hit you and who is talking to multiple guys....

Grow some balls and WALK AWAY.....

 

[May_Day]

her phone rang. I was like who is that and she wouldn't tell me. After grabbing her phone I looked through her text and she was texting two dudes!!!!!! Even talking to one on the phone.

What do you expect? She is trying to get back at you for what you did. She will most likely hook up with this guy. You both are too immature for a relationship or marriage. And you were going to marry her. Why are you still chilling with her?

 

[Dedication]

O Lord. I'm ****ing up. Just ****ing up.

I did something so messed up I'm not even going to post it here.

But me and her chilled today and just went out for lunch. After lunch she was dropping me back off at my apartment and her phone rang. I was like who is that and she wouldn't tell me. After grabbing her phone I looked through her text and she was texting two dudes!!!!!! Even talking to one on the phone.


Now she's the one "cheating"


WTF. LMAO.

So... You ****ed up by finding out the truth? I don't get it.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I ****ed up by even talking to her and trying to work things out.

 

[zinc4]

I ****ed up by even talking to her and trying to work things out.

Well, that is the past...all that you can and should do now is walk away silently and go NC...just do it and no regrets.

 

[zekko]

IMO this website over the years has become so infested with just downright nasty, jaded, angry men from what they perceive as abuse by women most of their lives that they tend to lash out any anyone that they interpret as being happy or ecstatic with the woman and relationship that person is in.

I've noticed this also. And some of these people are dispensing the most advice. Thing is, I can't imagine that anyone who has actually had any real success with women would be so filled with anger, hatred, and bitterness on the subject.

 

[Purefilth]

I ****ed up by even talking to her and trying to work things out.

Lesson learnt then.

 

[buzzin_frog]

AAAgent says it's ok for a girl to hit you

What about biting? she did that first

I ****ed up by even talking to her and trying to work things out.

why are you trying to "work things out" after she was biting and hitting you? did she even apologize for that or were you too busy accepting the blame? you were wrong (to text that other chick and to choke your fiancee)....but she is just as guilty for attacking you....never allow a woman to get away with abusive behavior by taking the blame for her...that is wrong!!

the fact that she attacked you first.... is enough to see that this is not going to happen....what happens when she starts hitting you again for some reason? that is abuse man....would you still put up with that?

backbreaker was right when he said "it is a blessing in disguise"...you found out that this chick gets abusive....you were lucky to find that out before you got married!!

I don't get why all these guys want to stick around to try to "work things out" when something like this happens....it just shows weakness....there comes a time when you need to step up and be a man and not accept the crap that women are giving you!!...realize that it is over and walk away from it.

These women bully their men....hit them.....cheat on them...disrespect them....try to dump them....and what is the first thing these guys want to do? they want to "try to work things out"...what for? just so it can happen again later on? it will never get any better...it will just get worse!!

Quit allowing women to treat you like sh!t while you accept the blame.....because they will blame you all the damn time!!

There are also guys who cheat (or attempt to cheat) on their girlfriends/fiancees/wives and get caught....after they do, they get upset and immediately want to "work things out"...that is wrong!!

Don't apologize and become beta/AFC over her....accept what happened and move on because the relationship is over...when you start apologizing, you become weak...you lose your frame....the relationship starts to run on HER terms....she holds the power...then you start doing what SHE wants you to do....because you are sorry and trying to please her all the time....most of the time, she gets another dude and you're trying to compete with him....you turn into her by becoming insecure...then the wheels fall off the wagon when she turns it on you!! A total waste of time because the relationship is done....but you wanted to keep a dead relationship going by trying to "work it out"

It just ruins you as a man.. because get way behind in the game by becoming beta/AFC...then you spend your time trying to work things out for yourself by trying to get back in the game.....it ain't worth it guys!!

If she was so great to begin with.....you wouldn't be trying to cheat....and she certainly wouldn't be hitting you!!

Never accept abuse from women of any kind!!

Be responsible for your actions and accept the consequences!!

That is what a real man does....that is what a DJ is supposed to do!!

The thing that you, cordon, and voice are forgetting is that you are not a husband first. You are a man.

Well...if you are ever married one day, make sure to keep your skills razor sharp. Then when you get caught cheating, you will be giving up your sh!t to your ex wife after she drags you into court!! Do you really want to go through all that?

I agree mostly with the mistakes you say he made. I bolded, however, things that I think aren't mistakes. Mistake is probably the wrong word anyhow, but I'll stick with it. The thing that you, cordon, and voice are forgetting is that you are not a husband first. You are a man.

There is simply nothing wrong with flirting with other women..engaged, married, single, I don't care what stage of life you're in. It's necessary to stay sharp in the game. You can't do that when you only speak to one woman and oogle over her day and night. Competition anxiety is something that drives the hamster wild and INCREASES ATTRACTION. If you really want to get your girlfriend hot, flirt with other women IN FRONT OF HER.

I'm not saying you have to cheat if you don't want to. If you want to stay faithful, great. But saying you can't flirt and text with other women just because you're about to get married is ridiculous. Don't throw away DJ knowledge just because your eyes are clouded with the sight of "love."

Well some of your thinking is wrong...I agree that there is nothing wrong with flirting......getting numbers, planning to cheat, and texting other women is wrong when you are getting married!! There is no point in getting married if you still want to spin plates!!

There is no point in being committed to a person (engaged/married) if you plan to cheat or meet other women....that is why you stay single and avoid that crap altogether!!

You can still retain DJ knowledge....have other women attracted to you......but there is no point in cheating or planning to cheat when you are married or engaged....that is a total waste of time...stay single and spin plates instead!!

This guy is 22....he has no business trying to get married....he is too young, immature, and is not financially secure to have that responsibility....he should be out meeting other women and not just be committed to one!!

He was wrong to text the spanish chick...he made himself look guilty by coming up with a lame lie...then trying to hide the evidence....and finally choking her out!!

Nothing he did was DJ at all

He had no plan and then got caught....so he lost everything...now he is miserable with nothing to show for it.....now this chick is turning it around on him ....making him feel more angry, insecure with himself and with her... she is now planning to bang other guys...he did exactly what you are now preaching with your advice...how did that work out for him? not very well.

He is not ready to be committed to one person......because he is too young....his actions showed that....so it's best that this happened now before he got married....otherwise he would be going through a divorce!!

He did way too much for this chick by moving out to her.....because in the end....she didn't appreciate all that he did...she only views him as a cheater and an abuser because of this incident....she doesn't care how much he did for her....that is why you always put yourself first!!

The OP needs to move on and get over what he did....that is the only thing he can do...he decided to get involved involve another chick....that was his fault...hopefully he will learn from his mistakes...having a girlfriend and a fiancee is two different things....putting a chick above yourself should never be done....wallowing in misery won't change anything....what's done is done...start to rebuild your frame as a man....get some anger management....meet some new women...and start fresh with a DJ mind!!

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

If there is one thing I can learn about this and it is where I messed up the biggest. Is way before all this bs. It was me not staying in Atlanta and moving to my college city to be with her. She would preach plans on how we would move to Atlanta during the summer and then I could get my career job. Now its Summer time and she's telling me she's going back to the college town for the Fall semester.

Just switched up the game with me. I think it's total BS but that is what you get when you follow a females lead. I'm not doing that no more.

Right now I'm working at a Dealership, In 3 months I've pulled 14k. It's in my college town but right now I think I may just go to Atlanta and get me a job there. No more following a woman. It's time to do me and if she follows she follows but I shouldn't be the one acting off emotion. She should be the one acting off it.

I even got fooled last week. We talked and she was telling me she wanted to get an apartment in my college town and somehow I agreed to do it. Then days later she changes the whole script. Wow. Stupid Pretty Boy, Stupid Pretty Boy.

 

[Hustlaz Ambition]

Tsk, Tsk, AJ you should have known better its 2013 us black males ain't got time for these confrontational black chicks. I hardly see black men with black chicks at all these days unless he's either 1.older generation 2.A thug type. Hasn't Floyd Mayweather's prison sentence taught you anything :nono: HIT and QUIT! 70% of black women are single for a reason. This post breaks political correctness, but **** it. You could have KILLED that ***** man. You are in ATL nonetheless. Last time I went over there I saw a lot of brothers with some Asians.

Once I went Latina I never went back