"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dated a woman. Met her on pof. She lied about her age, by ten years. Found out she lied about her name as well.

She told me pretty quick that she had a male roommate and that they agreed to not bring people over.

She came and would pick me up from my place, take me out to dinner and after a couple weeks she'd get us a hotel room every Friday night.

She was really buttering me up so I decided to look into her. Have a friend who's a sales manager at a franchise car dealership. I explained to him the situation and texted him a picture of her license plate.

With that I googled her address. Found a phone number. Googled the phone number which led me to her "roommates" website. Emailed him. At first he didn't seem interested, but eventually he reached back out to me.

She was her.kind of ex of 8 years. Turns out they've been on and off for the last year or so.

Why lie like this? I mean she loved sex with me. She'd pick me up, suck me in the car then take me to dinner. She did a lot for me scruffy l actually, I didn't have transportation for a while.

Was I just a human dildo to her?

I'm 27 she's 45, no kids.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Dated a woman. Met her on pof. She lied about her age, by ten years. Found out she lied about her name as well.

She told me pretty quick that she had a male roommate and that they agreed to not bring people over.

She came and would pick me up from my place, take me out to dinner and after a couple weeks she'd get us a hotel room every Friday night.

She was really buttering me up so I decided to look into her. Have a friend who's a sales manager at a franchise car dealership. I explained to him the situation and texted him a picture of her license plate.

With that I googled her address. Found a phone number. Googled the phone number which led me to her "roommates" website. Emailed him. At first he didn't seem interested, but eventually he reached back out to me.

She was her.kind of ex of 8 years. Turns out they've been on and off for the last year or so.

Why lie like this? I mean she loved sex with me. She'd pick me up, suck me in the car then take me to dinner. She did a lot for me scruffy l actually, I didn't have transportation for a while.

Was I just a human dildo to her?

I'm 27 she's 45, no kids.
Pretty much. She was looking for mr right now not mr right and you filled the need.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Dated a woman. Met her on pof. She lied about her age, by ten years. Found out she lied about her name as well.

She told me pretty quick that she had a male roommate and that they agreed to not bring people over.

She came and would pick me up from my place, take me out to dinner and after a couple weeks she'd get us a hotel room every Friday night.

She was really buttering me up so I decided to look into her. Have a friend who's a sales manager at a franchise car dealership. I explained to him the situation and texted him a picture of her license plate.

With that I googled her address. Found a phone number. Googled the phone number which led me to her "roommates" website. Emailed him. At first he didn't seem interested, but eventually he reached back out to me.

She was her.kind of ex of 8 years. Turns out they've been on and off for the last year or so.

Why lie like this? I mean she loved sex with me. She'd pick me up, suck me in the car then take me to dinner. She did a lot for me scruffy l actually, I didn't have transportation for a while.

Was I just a human dildo to her?

I'm 27 she's 45, no kids.
I'm just curious, if your 27 and entering your prime....why are you dating a so called "35" yr. old woman?
 

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I'm just curious, if your 27 and entering your prime....why are you dating a so called "35" yr. old woman?
Because I didn't have much options at that point. Plus she made it real easy for me, paid for hotel rooms, bought me food all the time.

She also just had this lust for me, like when she pick me up, when I got in the car she looked so horny. It made me feel good to be so desired.

Also I didn't have a car at the time so she'd not only drive me to where I needed to go (grocery store, bank, etc) she'd buy me food and suck my d1ck in the parking lot.
 
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Online dating is bottom of the barrel 99% of the time. Really gotta be picky on there.

As for the chick, she sounds like a psycho. Living with an on off ex for eight years? Yikes. Run, Forest, run.
Actually she owned the house and drives a Mercedes and a Mazda.
 

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I'm sorry man but it appears you may have been her boy toy/plate which is no surprise... But what I have trouble believing is if she owns her own house and has a male roommate living with her and they agreed not to have any guests overnight at the house, I mean I could be wrong but....doesn't that sound suspicious to you? Are you sure she's still not messing with him as well? She's full of lies and nonsense that are certainly not worthy of your time.
 

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I'm sorry man but it appears you may have been her boy toy/plate which is no surprise... But what I have trouble believing is if she owns her own house and has a male roommate living with her and they agreed not to have any guests overnight at the house, I mean I could be wrong but....doesn't that sound suspicious to you? Are you sure she's still not messing with him as well? She's full of lies and nonsense that are certainly not worthy of your time.
Oh trust me. Me and him talked. He said they weren't sleeping together for a while. I did dump her multiple times and I think she banged him one or twice. But maybe he lied, but why.would he?

Not that it matters at this point.

Obviously it was suspicious did you even read the whole op?
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Dated a woman. Met her on pof. She lied about her age, by ten years. Found out she lied about her name as well.

She told me pretty quick that she had a male roommate and that they agreed to not bring people over.

She came and would pick me up from my place, take me out to dinner and after a couple weeks she'd get us a hotel room every Friday night.

She was really buttering me up so I decided to look into her. Have a friend who's a sales manager at a franchise car dealership. I explained to him the situation and texted him a picture of her license plate.

With that I googled her address. Found a phone number. Googled the phone number which led me to her "roommates" website. Emailed him. At first he didn't seem interested, but eventually he reached back out to me.

She was her.kind of ex of 8 years. Turns out they've been on and off for the last year or so.

Why lie like this? I mean she loved sex with me. She'd pick me up, suck me in the car then take me to dinner. She did a lot for me scruffy l actually, I didn't have transportation for a while.

Was I just a human dildo to her?

I'm 27 she's 45, no kids.
The answer to this question is quite simple.....you shouldn't really care.

Nobody can teach you not to care. So many can tell you "oh dude don't care"

But when you really don't care, you'll know that you don't even have to thing about not
caring....

Women will keep you around as long as they gain a benefit from you.....it's human nature...
the worst thing you can do is analyst it.
 
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