“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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So, you've got the girl, now what?

Supremo

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The majority of threads on this site talk about how to get the girl, but what about afterward?

I know some may say for this to be moved into the high school thread, but I the advice here will hopefully be universal to all ages of Don Juans.

My major sticking point in my current relationship is that it's hard for us to talk on the phone. Granted, we're still in the early stages of the physical side of our relationship, but its been about a month and I find myself struggling to maintain an easy-flowing conversation on the phone after about 15 minutes of talking.

Sure, it's easy enough to talk about random things, but when you're actually in a relationship, it's nice to talk more in depth (deep rapport, for all you DJs).

Any advice? A couple of my "natural" friends have said to either a) talk about the girl, or b) talk about the relationship.

Even with those in mind, it's difficult for me to keep it moving.

Advice? Conversation topics?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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maybe she's just not interesting.....

either that or she's finding you not interesting...


when im personally interested in a person, i find that the conversations flow easily... especially if the other person is interested in me.. then it really doesnt matter what you are talking about...

many here will tell you that phone conversations should be used only to setup dates... there is some sense in that if you are in the position that YOU are in.. when the conversations are just not interesting..
 

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Supremo said:
The majority of threads on this site talk about how to get the girl, but what about afterward?


Sure, it's easy enough to talk about random things, but when you're actually in a relationship, it's nice to talk more in depth (deep rapport, for all you DJs).

Any advice? A couple of my "natural" friends have said to either a) talk about the girl, or b) talk about the relationship.

Even with those in mind, it's difficult for me to keep it moving.

You have to be exciting enough to never have to worry about "what to talk about" with a girl who lets you touch her body.

If you have problems with the conversation, the interest level on her side is dropping fast.
 

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I had the same issues. The problem is the fact that we have been fed lies!!!

Communication is not about letting her talk about herself all day and you just listen. Yes people love to hear themselves talk but they will not find you entertaining or interesting. This is how you make friends, not intimate relationships. If she is not a natural talker, then its worst because she will just think talking to you is a bore and lose interest fast. One problem most guys make is ask a barrage of question interrogating her because you believe this will get her talking but instead you learn that she gets frustrated and think you are not very creative.

Be talkative, say a bunch of interesting things. Read about human nature or learn more about our psyche. Tell her about things you learn here on Don Juan forums, about how to influencing people. Don't worry about talking too much. That is the biggest mistake I made. I always thought "sh*t I am talking too much". The real problem is when you talk too much about yourself or non interesting things like how computers work or spaceships ;). Talk about interesting human behavior topics and make her think you are an expert on the subject. She will quickly try to give her own ideas and before you know it you can't get her to stop talking.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Supremo said:
My major sticking point in my current relationship is that it's hard for us to talk on the phone.
??? can you talk in person easily? If this is a problem then you haven't actually haven't improved much.

Supremo said:
Granted, we're still in the early stages of the physical side of our relationship, but its been about a month
What!? please tell me you've had sex with her already

Supremo said:
I find myself struggling to maintain an easy-flowing conversation on the phone after about 15 minutes of talking.
Again you haven't really got far if you still have problems holding conversation

Supremo said:
Sure, it's easy enough to talk about random things, but when you're actually in a relationship, it's nice to talk more in depth (deep rapport, for all you DJs).
Just do it, if thats what you want to do

Supremo said:
Advice? Conversation topics?
Stop trying to force everything. Also start actually developing a REAL personality, because if you can pickup chicks but then having problems as to what to do after then your actually missing the whole point of learning PICKUP. (And that is...)

Improve your who you are. You got the girl because of who you are so of course you should be exactly who you were when you first met her. Like some people have said.

"Pickup isn't something you do its something you are"

You don't have to do deep rapport, but if that is the type of person you are then by all means do it. How would you do it LEAD, just like you lead the pickup. Talk, go deeper, lead it deeper, lead it deeper.

Relationships aren't really talked about much because it all comes down to the person and what he wants in a relationship and how he wants it to be. All that extends from your personality.
 
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