"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So where exactly are the AFC's?

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I as of late have been thinking about something

what exactly sets Don Juan's apart from other guys? what makes them special? why do women prefer a don Juan to a regualr guy?

MOst guys i have seen are fairly confident, have atleast something going for them, have girls that like them etc. decent Job's, not bad looking, and not afriad to talk to random girls

My gf gets hit on all the time guy random guys. guys who are as confident as the next guy with walking up to a girl and trying to game her.

there guys all think they are the sh1t. they all think they look good, and every girl should want them. they are confident and seem to be in control. These traits are shared with people who claim to be don Juan's

so i'm wondering exactly where are these guys who are so AFC that they don't get women. so AFC's that girls are pushed away by them? where are these guys? most guys seem pretty confident to me:confused:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jeffst1980

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It's more complicated than the acronym suggests.

An AFC isn't always a guy that can't get laid.

Contrary to popular belief, an AFC is perfectly capable of getting laid. There are married AFC’s, single AFC’s, AFC’s dating unattractive girls...even AFC’s dating hot chicks.

If you believe that getting laid will solve all your women problems, you have a lot to learn.

What makes an AFC an “Average, Frustrated Chump?”
His lack of IDENTITY.
His inability to STAND HIS GROUND
His MALLEABLE belief system.

An AFC will remain inactive until he is forced to react.
On the other hand, a DON JUAN will be in constant motion and therefore have nothing to react against.

A DON JUAN has a STRONG IDENTITY
A DON JUAN will ALWAYS STAND HIS GROUND
A DON JUAN has a belief system that he will defend with ALL HIS MIGHT.

Whereas an AFC spends all of his waking hours worrying about how women perceive him, a DJ doesn’t let the thought cross his mind.
Whereas an AFC follows the latest trends and fashions in an effort to fit in, a DJ follows his own muse instinctively.
Whereas an AFC waits for just the right moment to talk to that girl, or to ask her out, or to kiss her, a DJ understands that the PRESENT IS the right moment.

Women respond favorably to DJ’s and unfavorably to AFC’s. It has nothing to do with women wanting to be with JERKS. A TRUE DJ is remarkably kind because he has no insecurities. Aspire to be great and you shall be treated greatly.

Women are extremely intuitive in social settings and can sniff out an AFC in an instant.
The SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT thing you can do to improve your life is INTERNALIZE the foundation of a DON JUAN—This is the cornerstone. It should dictate your beliefs, your interactions, and your goals.
 

brian123

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I was an AFC when I was in several relationships.

IF I had my heart set on just getting some, and lowered my standards a bit, I could get some most any night I wanted to. However, I am recovering from AFC. Read my threads, I am an AFC, but I am also working hard everyday to no longer be an AFC.
 

Warrior74

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The average definition of Don Juan = Real man.

Guys here have taken the whole "Don Juan" Thing to some mythical meaning, like it means your better than the average cool confident successful guy. When in actuality its just being an average cool confident successful guy who is good with women. Most guys here haven't been that...so they need a handle on how to get there, hence the name. btw Don Juan is a stupid name, check out wikipedia to find out what the real Don Juan was all about. Not what you guys preach here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Juan
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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kingman

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I would say a Don Juan is a super confident man.....
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
It's more complicated than the acronym suggests.

An AFC isn't always a guy that can't get laid.

Contrary to popular belief, an AFC is perfectly capable of getting laid. There are married AFC’s, single AFC’s, AFC’s dating unattractive girls...even AFC’s dating hot chicks.

If you believe that getting laid will solve all your women problems, you have a lot to learn.

What makes an AFC an “Average, Frustrated Chump?”
His lack of IDENTITY.
His inability to STAND HIS GROUND
His MALLEABLE belief system.

An AFC will remain inactive until he is forced to react.
On the other hand, a DON JUAN will be in constant motion and therefore have nothing to react against.

A DON JUAN has a STRONG IDENTITY
A DON JUAN will ALWAYS STAND HIS GROUND
A DON JUAN has a belief system that he will defend with ALL HIS MIGHT.

Whereas an AFC spends all of his waking hours worrying about how women perceive him, a DJ doesn’t let the thought cross his mind.
Whereas an AFC follows the latest trends and fashions in an effort to fit in, a DJ follows his own muse instinctively.
Whereas an AFC waits for just the right moment to talk to that girl, or to ask her out, or to kiss her, a DJ understands that the PRESENT IS the right moment.

Women respond favorably to DJ’s and unfavorably to AFC’s. It has nothing to do with women wanting to be with JERKS. A TRUE DJ is remarkably kind because he has no insecurities. Aspire to be great and you shall be treated greatly.

Women are extremely intuitive in social settings and can sniff out an AFC in an instant.
The SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT thing you can do to improve your life is INTERNALIZE the foundation of a DON JUAN—This is the cornerstone. It should dictate your beliefs, your interactions, and your goals.
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Darth

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In response to the title question...

they are ALL over the place! We aren't the only ones.

We are the only ones that sought help.
 
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