"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
so what's the deal with Last Man Standing?
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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Who cares
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
aftershock
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He's Puerto Rican Lover.
Suprised no-one else has said anything.
Suprised no-one else has said anything.
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Why does it matter? A better question, why make a whole thread on it? And it probably belongs in the Anything Else forum, while I'm at it.
Just listen to what appeals to you, no matter who it comes from.
Just listen to what appeals to you, no matter who it comes from.
Chemistry
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There are a lot of folks on this site giving bad advice… I’ve seen LMS in some threads but I really didn’t pay enough attention to know if he falls into that category
But yea… there’s a bunch of dudes on here who are too bitter about past chicks to give you objective advice that isn’t laced with some brand of subconscious hate… there was a good illustration of the above in a recent thread by Jariel and the dudes who’d been cheated on at some point in their life told him to do the ‘right’ thing and cheat on his chick… seriously…
There are also a bunch of dudes who’ve submerged themselves so deep into the theory that they’ve forgotten how important experience is… they give their advice but the foundations of the advice are based solely on the theoretical and unfortunately theory is not totally reliable… it can teach you some good attributes to steer you onto the right path but when you try to apply like a science to a bunch of scenarios then you get some dud advice… you need a lot of time out there applying it and allowing aspects of it to filter into your outlook on life while becoming yourself and not trying to be an imitation (enter name of famous PUA here)… a lot of PUAs have lonely existences too…
Oh yea, and then there’s the dudes who’ve just joined up and think they know how to do things… it’s strange they come here with their own problems which are stories filled with mistakes, then try to advise another dude on what he should do to handle a certain chick… seriously, if you can’t handle your own game, then you aren’t best placed to be advising the next man on how to handle his…
The good posters are few and far-between because there isn’t much benefit in coming here once your game is down-packed… all the forum is littered with is the same threads week in, week out… it’s more like an agony aunt forum than what the DJ forums started out as – places where people would compare their techniques and experiences in creating a mutually beneficial environment… I like to come back every now and again and drop advice because I do still find some dudes’ scenarios interesting, and there’s a hint of compassion in that I hate seeing people make fundamental errors when they conduct themselves around chicks… I’m not completely selfless though; it does benefit a current side project I’m involved in and its related writing, lol
But yea… there’s a bunch of dudes on here who are too bitter about past chicks to give you objective advice that isn’t laced with some brand of subconscious hate… there was a good illustration of the above in a recent thread by Jariel and the dudes who’d been cheated on at some point in their life told him to do the ‘right’ thing and cheat on his chick… seriously…
There are also a bunch of dudes who’ve submerged themselves so deep into the theory that they’ve forgotten how important experience is… they give their advice but the foundations of the advice are based solely on the theoretical and unfortunately theory is not totally reliable… it can teach you some good attributes to steer you onto the right path but when you try to apply like a science to a bunch of scenarios then you get some dud advice… you need a lot of time out there applying it and allowing aspects of it to filter into your outlook on life while becoming yourself and not trying to be an imitation (enter name of famous PUA here)… a lot of PUAs have lonely existences too…
Oh yea, and then there’s the dudes who’ve just joined up and think they know how to do things… it’s strange they come here with their own problems which are stories filled with mistakes, then try to advise another dude on what he should do to handle a certain chick… seriously, if you can’t handle your own game, then you aren’t best placed to be advising the next man on how to handle his…
The good posters are few and far-between because there isn’t much benefit in coming here once your game is down-packed… all the forum is littered with is the same threads week in, week out… it’s more like an agony aunt forum than what the DJ forums started out as – places where people would compare their techniques and experiences in creating a mutually beneficial environment… I like to come back every now and again and drop advice because I do still find some dudes’ scenarios interesting, and there’s a hint of compassion in that I hate seeing people make fundamental errors when they conduct themselves around chicks… I’m not completely selfless though; it does benefit a current side project I’m involved in and its related writing, lol
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I understand what your saying. But, when you are starting a thread and trying to discuss a serious topic, He will invade your thread with stupid comments. It just seems like he is on this forum to poke fun at people for the most part. Very few of his posts are genuine. Imagine if everyone posted like this loser, the whole sosuave would be a joke. I think people should at least try to be courteous to one another.
I rather have a guy that uses bad languages, speaks up for himself, than have someone like LMS who 95% of the time never gives any serious advice. Personally if it was up to me this guy would be banned.
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Ding, ding ding ding, ding, ding - the guy wins a teddy bear!aftershock said:
I give the best advice and best insight of any poster on this forum since its' inception! And yes this is an outlet for me for entertainment and humor - humor requires interaction!rrrrr said:
Don't take everything I say so seriouslyryannath said:
- nobody uses mr rollyeyes more than me!! (or esclamation points!!!)Yapper said:
Any women you haver sex with who is not your wife is a hor so I'm only a pimp if I am sexing a hor - just like everyone else!Yes, take from this forum what best suits you - differing views create more options. I am alone in my thinking so you need someone like me to offer that unique perspective!!Ace of Flames said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Hmmmmmm, I thought you apoligized to me and made a truce but then here you go starting the name calling!!! One sentence of one my posts have more insight than all of your posts combined!!!lookyoung said:
Are you mad because all of your boys were banned??? Quit being an attention hor - you should be banned for the mere fact that 90% of the content of all of your posts are calling for others to be banned!!!
You always whine whine whine whine - - you are a whiny biatch!!
You sound like a pvssy!!! If pvssy could talk it would sound just like you!!
that sounds like retarded advice. i don't want to fill my mind with a bunch of crap some loser pulled out of his ass that has no basis in real world experience just cause i think it sounds nice then i go out and fall on my ass.Ace of Flames said:
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Oh sorry, I assumed people had enough common sense to either:Yapper said:
A) Realize when someone has no idea what they're going on about.
or
B) Take anything they read with a grain of salt.
But you're right, this is Sosuave. What was I thinking? :crazy:
Honestly dude, if you take some faux advice and get burned, its your own fault. The world is a harsh place man. The path to happiness isn't made of golden bricks and arched with rainbows. You gotta fail to succeed. You learn from your mistakes and don't make them again the next time around. Its the only way you'll ever grow.
So allow me to reiterate: Just listen to what appeals to you, no matter who it comes from. You'll learn who to trust soon enough.
Yeah, I think LAS MAN STANDING is really the only TRUE DJ thats left in the forums... and of course Jariel Oxide PRmoon and Desdinova.... Most people wouldnt consider Skip2mylou a DJ, he doesnt follow the rules up the ass, but he does get the most pvssy out of everyone on the forumns!!
I just dont understand though, with all the knowledge you have how can you still be a virgin? is that some psycholligical thing which you feel no woman is good enough for you and theyre just *****s or what? Or just one of those cases that if you cant do teach?
Whats teh deal buddy!!!
I just dont understand though, with all the knowledge you have how can you still be a virgin? is that some psycholligical thing which you feel no woman is good enough for you and theyre just *****s or what? Or just one of those cases that if you cant do teach?
Whats teh deal buddy!!!
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Danny boy - I explained that in my post above - you should know my sarcasm by now! I made the virgin comment during a Nasman thread!
Yapper - some cats on here don't like me because I call hors "hors" and do not use the more polite yet inappropriate term "women"!
My advice is on point because I know the minds of women and hors and I actually distinguish the two!! Most guys do not distinguish these two very different mindsets and thus fall short in their insight!!
I've been involved with girls/women/hors since 1971!! I grew up in the "liberated hor" age and girls were running wild in the 1970's -- easy pickings!!
This new age girls cannot be approached or treated he same as women who were raised prior to the hor revolution!! They are perversions of their true selves - they deviated from their femininity -- and have become as men - the thousands of testimonies on this sites prove this!!! The abnormal has become the norm!!
I made the virgin comment during a Nasman thread!Yapper - some cats on here don't like me because I call hors "hors" and do not use the more polite yet inappropriate term "women"!
My advice is on point because I know the minds of women and hors and I actually distinguish the two!! Most guys do not distinguish these two very different mindsets and thus fall short in their insight!!
I've been involved with girls/women/hors since 1971!! I grew up in the "liberated hor" age and girls were running wild in the 1970's -- easy pickings!!
This new age girls cannot be approached or treated he same as women who were raised prior to the hor revolution!! They are perversions of their true selves - they deviated from their femininity -- and have become as men - the thousands of testimonies on this sites prove this!!! The abnormal has become the norm!!
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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Hold on, Hold on, Wait A Minute....
Last Man Standing? Are you really PRL? Huh, answer that for me?
Oh My God! What's up buddy! It's me, PVSSYEATER, remember? Lol, look dude, I've grow up so much, it's been a long journey from when I first came here. Why don't you pm me?
And Look Young, you said....
"Very few of his posts are genuine(LMS). Imagine if everyone posted like this loser, the whole sosuave would be a joke. I think people should at least try to be courteous to one another.'
Oh My God! Look Young you pm me asking for my picture, showing an icon of one of the cartoons showing their azz, and you're talking about genuine posters? What in the hell have you posted that's genuine? Lol, get outta here. And don't pm me again, I'm not giving you my picture you psycho.
If Last Man Standing is PRL, then you guys had better listen up. This is a guy that has excellent information, and he knows what he's talking about.
It's just the funny thing I said about this forum. I only believe that about 1% of you are actually free and living the life you want, you know how I know? Because when the REAL PUA makes a post usually all you guys flame him. Look at Pook, Anti-Dump, PRL, Me lol! I personally don't give a damn, but I'm just hoping that guys who come here to learn greatly, please don't conclude that a poster is "bad" because everybody flames him. As I said, majority of these guys are fvcked up, so anybody who posts that's not fvcked up, all the fvcked up people will voice their "opinions."
Now let me hear you say, "PRL! PRL! PRL!"
Last Man Standing? Are you really PRL? Huh, answer that for me?
Oh My God! What's up buddy! It's me, PVSSYEATER, remember? Lol, look dude, I've grow up so much, it's been a long journey from when I first came here. Why don't you pm me?
And Look Young, you said....
"Very few of his posts are genuine(LMS). Imagine if everyone posted like this loser, the whole sosuave would be a joke. I think people should at least try to be courteous to one another.'
Oh My God! Look Young you pm me asking for my picture, showing an icon of one of the cartoons showing their azz, and you're talking about genuine posters? What in the hell have you posted that's genuine? Lol, get outta here. And don't pm me again, I'm not giving you my picture you psycho.
If Last Man Standing is PRL, then you guys had better listen up. This is a guy that has excellent information, and he knows what he's talking about.
It's just the funny thing I said about this forum. I only believe that about 1% of you are actually free and living the life you want, you know how I know? Because when the REAL PUA makes a post usually all you guys flame him. Look at Pook, Anti-Dump, PRL, Me lol! I personally don't give a damn, but I'm just hoping that guys who come here to learn greatly, please don't conclude that a poster is "bad" because everybody flames him. As I said, majority of these guys are fvcked up, so anybody who posts that's not fvcked up, all the fvcked up people will voice their "opinions."
Now let me hear you say, "PRL! PRL! PRL!"
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PRL Make a Thread Man! I want to hear some of your advice dude....I haven't heard it in 2 years.
Look lol, PRL...why did you say this to Look Young, lol,
"One sentence of one my posts have more insight than all of your posts combined!!! Quit being an attention hor - You always whine whine whine whine - - you are a whiny biatch!!"
ahahahaahah, but look PRL, you continued.....
"You sound like a pvssy!!! If pvssy could talk it would sound just like you!!"
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
He is a Pvssy PRL! The guy sends me a private message asking for my phone number and my picture :crackup:
Then, lol, he has a icon of one of the face cartoons bending over and showing me his azz :crackup:
So I guess LookYoung is non-verbally wanting me to fvck him in his azz, and unfortunately, the guy thing is just not my thing, lol! So Look Young, looks like you get rejected by girls AND guys!
:crackup:
Look lol, PRL...why did you say this to Look Young, lol,
"One sentence of one my posts have more insight than all of your posts combined!!! Quit being an attention hor - You always whine whine whine whine - - you are a whiny biatch!!"
ahahahaahah, but look PRL, you continued.....
"You sound like a pvssy!!! If pvssy could talk it would sound just like you!!"
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
He is a Pvssy PRL! The guy sends me a private message asking for my phone number and my picture :crackup:
Then, lol, he has a icon of one of the face cartoons bending over and showing me his azz :crackup:
So I guess LookYoung is non-verbally wanting me to fvck him in his azz, and unfortunately, the guy thing is just not my thing, lol! So Look Young, looks like you get rejected by girls AND guys!
:crackup:
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Hahahha, You finally changed your name as I told you to do two years ago - very good!!! Good to hear from you - you made me laugh - what's upi!!
It is good that you matured!! QUIT EATING PVSSY!!
Aftershock already called me out in the posts above -- Last Man Standing is PuertoRican_ lover!! Yes, I am the last man standing in an age of the vanishing male!!
I don't want to bash or talk bad about anyone except when they pick a fight with me - I'm a lover not a fighter!!
I'm going to make a thread just for you DJf or John - by special request!!
I was reading all your comments on your Thread to figure out who you were - I knew you were a past member - and your writing style is similar to pvssy eater --- always dictating to people and trying to show them the light!
It is good that you matured!! QUIT EATING PVSSY!!
Aftershock already called me out in the posts above -- Last Man Standing is PuertoRican_ lover!! Yes, I am the last man standing in an age of the vanishing male!!
I don't want to bash or talk bad about anyone except when they pick a fight with me - I'm a lover not a fighter!!
I'm going to make a thread just for you DJf or John - by special request!!
I was reading all your comments on your Thread to figure out who you were - I knew you were a past member - and your writing style is similar to pvssy eater --- always dictating to people and trying to show them the light!
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PRL...I got to tell you, this is a treat.
You were and are always my Uncle man!
Make a post, make a damn post, please make it! I'll print that svcker off and tack it on my mirror!
Man let me tell you, PVSSY EATER is still very much apart of me. And I came back to these forums to find guys who are like me and similar to me, and I will be a help for them.
One of the things I struggled with, is back in my PVSSYEATER days, while I was seeing the light I had a lot of problems with people here, and I was flamed badly.
Because I was new, I didn't really understand, and instead of this site helping me it actually hurt me.
I was little Simba then, now I'm big Simba! And I come here to rule the kingdom and make sure there's no bullshyt going on around here.
SkipToTheLou reminded me so much of myself. They flamed the hell out of Skip, then they got him banned. I don't know his email or anything...but I wish I would have came back here more often before they banned him, because I would have tried to stop it.
1%....only 1% of America is free...free financially and free romantically. 99% of people are fvcked up. 99% of these guys on this forum is fvcked up...and I come back to make sure that they don't spoil it for the 1% of guys here that will grow up like I did and become successful.
To the 99% of you, PUT EM UP! :box:
You were and are always my Uncle man!
Make a post, make a damn post, please make it! I'll print that svcker off and tack it on my mirror!
Man let me tell you, PVSSY EATER is still very much apart of me. And I came back to these forums to find guys who are like me and similar to me, and I will be a help for them.
One of the things I struggled with, is back in my PVSSYEATER days, while I was seeing the light I had a lot of problems with people here, and I was flamed badly.
Because I was new, I didn't really understand, and instead of this site helping me it actually hurt me.
I was little Simba then, now I'm big Simba! And I come here to rule the kingdom and make sure there's no bullshyt going on around here.
SkipToTheLou reminded me so much of myself. They flamed the hell out of Skip, then they got him banned. I don't know his email or anything...but I wish I would have came back here more often before they banned him, because I would have tried to stop it.
1%....only 1% of America is free...free financially and free romantically. 99% of people are fvcked up. 99% of these guys on this forum is fvcked up...and I come back to make sure that they don't spoil it for the 1% of guys here that will grow up like I did and become successful.
To the 99% of you, PUT EM UP! :box:
Listen guys draw your own conclusions. I am not going to get into a flame war with these two faggots. People that have game will recognize others that have it. EVERYONE PLEASE LOOK UP LMS THREADS AND POSTS AND YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.
DJF OR JOHN- You lost all your credibility making a stupid statement like this. You sound nothing like skip. SKIP was a man.
LMS IS JUST H ERE TO DISRUPT THIS FORUM. 95% OF HIS POSTS ARE JOKES AND HE TRIES TO GET UNDER EVERYONES SKIN. HE DOESN'T SPEAK FROM THE HEART.
LOOK UP MY POSTS AND THREADS I SPEAK FROM THE HEART. EVEN THOUGH MY LANGUAGE MAY BE BAD.
EVERYONE DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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