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Hey guys,
First post here. I'm new to the forum and would like to know your thoughts on a specific situation that's been going on for around a month now.
There's this girl i met at a dance class. It's one of those college electives classes, and we just hit it off from the start.
The class only happens on Thursday mornings for about 2 hours, so that's the only time i get to have face to face interaction time with her.
Before going further i'd like to mention that there's only around 2 other guys in the class, and like 8-9 other girls. I'm naturally funny and outgoing so everyone just has a good time around me, i mix that up with dominant eye contact and smirks that reflect i kind of ''know something you don't''.
This is what's happened so far:

- Like i said, we instantly hit it off from the first week, so from that point to today, we always share a couple of fun dance routines during class, and she has a lot of fun with me. We get to laugh a lot, i get the chance to do some witty comments, lots of eye contact, and last but not least, lots and lots of kino.

- 2 weeks into the class, with the ice already broken between us, i decided to invite her out. Now, my college schedule only allows me to go out for breakfast, since it starts in the afternoon and runs into the night, plus i have my own company and personal projects (i'm starting a fashion brand in around 3 months) so time is somewhat scarce on my part.
When i asked her out, she said for the first time that she had a boyfriend. I responded telling her that it was fine, that i wasn't the jealous type; we laughed and kept the conversation going. After a couple of attempts it seemed pretty clear that i'd have to spend some more time getting more personal with her so i could get over the boyfriend barrier. I didn't let her feel it affected me the wrong way when i learned she had a bf, cause being honest with all you DJs, it actually didnt..I just shrugged it off and said ''ok cool, tty next class''.

- Next thursday arrives, and i felt like having a bit of amusement. When the time came to pick partners for the dance, i didn't pick her until the last couple minutes of class. So she saw me taking around 3-4 girls before her, having a good time with all of them, laughing, and overall being myself around the other girls. One of those girls included the teacher herself, who also has a great time with me. After we had to pick partners again, i could literally see her face light up as i approached her and said ''let's get to it, i don't have all day'' with a cool smirk on my face (i felt pretty Bond at that time hehe). After class ended and everyone took off, i saw her going for her car, and i shouted to her ''Hey ---, come over here, pass me your phone real quick''. She came back and handed me her phone, she then saw me adding myself to her contact list under the name '' ----- The Super Sexy Dancer'', then texted myself from her phone saying ''Hey sexyyy!!'' and i gave it back to her. She looked at it, laughed, and said ''Hahaha you're a naughty one''. We talked for about 6 more minutes and then we each took off.

Fast forward two days later, and i text her for the first time (this was all yesterday), thinking it could be a good thing to just share a couple of fun/flirty texts between classes. I'm gonna show you guys the exact conversation:

Me: Tell me something interesting that nobody knows about you (4:13pm)
Her: About me??? (4:18pm)
Her: I dont knoww (4:18pm)
Her: I'm very emotional (4:18pm)
Her: I feel a lot (4:18pm)
Me: Are you? that means you're an artist (4:33pm)
Me: Wild guess here (4:33pm)
Me: Monet fan? (4:33pm)

Until here, i think to myself that it's going pretty smoothly, i think im gonna get some good responses out of it, but she actually turns cold on me, and responds two hour later.

Her: Yeah (6:18pm)
Her: Van Gogh too (6:18pm)

I do the same and respond 4 hours later.

Me: People either love or hate the earless guy (10:29pm)
Me: I bet he's your favorite (10:29pm)
Me: Why do you love him? (10:29pm)

Im thinking this will get her to talk about why van gogh is her favorite artist, what does he make her feel, etc.
She does the same and responds 5 hours later, sounding uninterested.

Her: For his story (1:20am)

Now, at that time i was drinking with some friends and i might've been a little tipsy already, so i responded just 5 minutes after.

Me: What are you doing up so late little girl (1:25am)
Me: What are you up to (1:25am)

And she never texted me back. I obviously won't start contact again until around 4-5 days go by.

Honestly, i didn't think she'd act this uninterested over text based on all the reactions and interactions we have face to face. What do you guys think, is she just trying to put me off balance here? I want to ask her out again but i dont think over text would be a good idea, what do you guys make out of this? i wanted to include as many details as i could so you would shed some light on a newbie, aspiring DJ.

Thanks in advance!
 

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I think that she likes you, but she realizes that she has a bf and she isnt leaving him.

-----OR-----

You spent way too long talking about artist stuff and bored her. If the bf doesnt bother you and doesnt bother her, you should have pulled the trigger after a couple texts and asked her out.

"Yeah I like Van Gogh too. He I have to run but some of us are meeting up at _____ on Friday. Swing by and join us"
 

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shes got a bf bro


do you want your ass beat or a bullet in your head? because thats where this is going. shes using you as a backburner orbiter to give her attention while staying with her bf.

i would have went cold on the hoe...your trying too hard right now mate and its coming off as lame...TBH I would have called her ***** azz out on being all over me then pulling the I have a BF card...thats some trickery right there.
 

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I think that she likes you, but she realizes that she has a bf and she isnt leaving him.

-----OR-----

You spent way too long talking about artist stuff and bored her. If the bf doesnt bother you and doesnt bother her, you should have pulled the trigger after a couple texts and asked her out.

"Yeah I like Van Gogh too. He I have to run but some of us are meeting up at _____ on Friday. Swing by and join us"
I'm asking her out again next class, which will be next week. Should i imply that i won't give her another chance after that? (if she plays the bf card again)
Or should i just ask her out, and if she plays the same card again, just say ok cool and simply move on?
 

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That conversation was boring. Also...

....cringefest.
Well in my defense, this was all done in spanish and i just translated it for you guys, so it wasn't ''little girl'' per se...But yeah, i get your point. Definitely have to work on my text game.
i just wanted to break the texting ice, if we can call it like that, by going for something casual. i leave all the flirting and such for when we are face to face.

If you guys would've been in my place, what would your responses have been like?
 

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1. I don't understand why so many guys are developing oneitis for women with biyfriends. There are plenty of healthy, single women out there. You WILL get laid, even if this one doesn't work out.

2. Do not triple-text women. I was cringing at those texts sent within seconds of each other. Texting is to set up dates, not to chit chat.

3. In the event she cheats on her boyfriend to be with you, there's a strong chance she'll do the same thing to do with another guy. Do you want a girl like that?

4. There are more women than men in your class. Go for another woman, seriously.

5. You didn't "hit it off" with her because she's not receptive to your moves.

6. Welcome to the Forum. Case closed.
 

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Hard to argue with Masculinity's post.

I would show up for class, smile, say hello and go roast the dance floor with every girl but her. With a smile on my face.

When she asks whats wrong, simply say that you are just being friends since she is not available.

Go find other chicks.
 

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Me: What are you doing up so late little girl
You know how to text properly, good. However, take this line out of your playbook. This is some corny, unattractive, highschool shít. Every woman had heard this line since they were 13. Also, stop double/triple texting. This is fine when the conversation is flowing and interesting but shes taking a lot of time to respond to you. Finally, matching times of texting should only be done up to 3 hrs. If she takes longer than 3 hrs. To reply, you need not respond at all and let her reach out. This shows that you will not be always willing and interested and she cannot reply anytime she wants.

DO NOT ASK HER OUT AGAIN. I REPEAT, DO NOT.


There is nothing more unattractive than a man who doesn't get it. By get it, I mean read social cues. She likes you, obviously but she is in a relationship and does not want to cheat.

Contrary to sosuave's popular belief, some women will not cheat. This is fine, it just means you have to play the long game and wait until there is trouble in paradise. You need to dial back the chase. Stop texting her, keep it flirty but cut it down and focus on the other women in the class. When her boyfriend is acting up, you will be the first to know. She might even cry to try and get you to ask her 'what's wrong.'

If you ask her out again, none of that is a possibility. She will reject you again. You guys need to be socially smarter.

  • She said no the first time you asked
  • She has a boyfriend
  • She's not interested in texting you
What part of this is equation equals: I have to ask her out again?
 

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Hey guys,
First post here. I'm new to the forum and would like to know your thoughts on a specific situation that's been going on for around a month now.
There's this girl i met at a dance class. It's one of those college electives classes, and we just hit it off from the start.
The class only happens on Thursday mornings for about 2 hours, so that's the only time i get to have face to face interaction time with her.
Before going further i'd like to mention that there's only around 2 other guys in the class, and like 8-9 other girls. I'm naturally funny and outgoing so everyone just has a good time around me, i mix that up with dominant eye contact and smirks that reflect i kind of ''know something you don't''.
This is what's happened so far:

- Like i said, we instantly hit it off from the first week, so from that point to today, we always share a couple of fun dance routines during class, and she has a lot of fun with me. We get to laugh a lot, i get the chance to do some witty comments, lots of eye contact, and last but not least, lots and lots of kino.

- 2 weeks into the class, with the ice already broken between us, i decided to invite her out. Now, my college schedule only allows me to go out for breakfast, since it starts in the afternoon and runs into the night, plus i have my own company and personal projects (i'm starting a fashion brand in around 3 months) so time is somewhat scarce on my part.
When i asked her out, she said for the first time that she had a boyfriend. I responded telling her that it was fine, that i wasn't the jealous type; we laughed and kept the conversation going. After a couple of attempts it seemed pretty clear that i'd have to spend some more time getting more personal with her so i could get over the boyfriend barrier. I didn't let her feel it affected me the wrong way when i learned she had a bf, cause being honest with all you DJs, it actually didnt..I just shrugged it off and said ''ok cool, tty next class''.

- Next thursday arrives, and i felt like having a bit of amusement. When the time came to pick partners for the dance, i didn't pick her until the last couple minutes of class. So she saw me taking around 3-4 girls before her, having a good time with all of them, laughing, and overall being myself around the other girls. One of those girls included the teacher herself, who also has a great time with me. After we had to pick partners again, i could literally see her face light up as i approached her and said ''let's get to it, i don't have all day'' with a cool smirk on my face (i felt pretty Bond at that time hehe). After class ended and everyone took off, i saw her going for her car, and i shouted to her ''Hey ---, come over here, pass me your phone real quick''. She came back and handed me her phone, she then saw me adding myself to her contact list under the name '' ----- The Super Sexy Dancer'', then texted myself from her phone saying ''Hey sexyyy!!'' and i gave it back to her. She looked at it, laughed, and said ''Hahaha you're a naughty one''. We talked for about 6 more minutes and then we each took off.

Fast forward two days later, and i text her for the first time (this was all yesterday), thinking it could be a good thing to just share a couple of fun/flirty texts between classes. I'm gonna show you guys the exact conversation:

Me: Tell me something interesting that nobody knows about you (4:13pm)
Her: About me??? (4:18pm)
Her: I dont knoww (4:18pm)
Her: I'm very emotional (4:18pm)
Her: I feel a lot (4:18pm)
Me: Are you? that means you're an artist (4:33pm)
Me: Wild guess here (4:33pm)
Me: Monet fan? (4:33pm)

Until here, i think to myself that it's going pretty smoothly, i think im gonna get some good responses out of it, but she actually turns cold on me, and responds two hour later.

Her: Yeah (6:18pm)
Her: Van Gogh too (6:18pm)

I do the same and respond 4 hours later.

Me: People either love or hate the earless guy (10:29pm)
Me: I bet he's your favorite (10:29pm)
Me: Why do you love him? (10:29pm)

Im thinking this will get her to talk about why van gogh is her favorite artist, what does he make her feel, etc.
She does the same and responds 5 hours later, sounding uninterested.

Her: For his story (1:20am)

Now, at that time i was drinking with some friends and i might've been a little tipsy already, so i responded just 5 minutes after.

Me: What are you doing up so late little girl (1:25am)
Me: What are you up to (1:25am)

And she never texted me back. I obviously won't start contact again until around 4-5 days go by.

Honestly, i didn't think she'd act this uninterested over text based on all the reactions and interactions we have face to face. What do you guys think, is she just trying to put me off balance here? I want to ask her out again but i dont think over text would be a good idea, what do you guys make out of this? i wanted to include as many details as i could so you would shed some light on a newbie, aspiring DJ.

Thanks in advance!
She already told you she had low interest when she said she had a boy friend. She was telling you she wasn't available or interested.

It probably turned her off when you kept pursuing her afterwards.
 

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I'm asking her out again next class, which will be next week. Should i imply that i won't give her another chance after that? (if she plays the bf card again)
Or should i just ask her out, and if she plays the same card again, just say ok cool and simply move on?
Next. Don't be "that guy." Go after new women.

If she plays the BF card next.

If the boyfriend thing is true, then she isn't available and she told you so.

If it's a lie and there is no BF then she is saying i don't like you.
 

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I know for a fact there is a BF.
Next. Don't be "that guy." Go after new women.

If she plays the BF card next.

If the boyfriend thing is true, then she isn't available and she told you so.

If it's a lie and there is no BF then she is saying i don't like you.
I know for a fact there is a BF.

Guys, thanks for all the feedback. Like i said, i'm relatively new to game in general but i'm willing to work long term on getting better at this (not just THIS, but constantly ''bettering'' myself in every way). This **** has opened my eyes. I won't ask her out again, wont text her again. In class, i'll just act like nothing ever happened and move on to the other girls.
Hope to keep learning from everyone around here and hope i can somehow be of help too.
 

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I know for a fact there is a BF.


I know for a fact there is a BF.

Guys, thanks for all the feedback. Like i said, i'm relatively new to game in general but i'm willing to work long term on getting better at this (not just THIS, but constantly ''bettering'' myself in every way). This **** has opened my eyes. I won't ask her out again, wont text her again. In class, i'll just act like nothing ever happened and move on to the other girls.
Hope to keep learning from everyone around here and hope i can somehow be of help too.
Best way to be. Work on yourself. Constantly improve. Meet new women and have fun.
 

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OK, so you riled up all the morality feathers--She has a bf, bro (as if a college bf means sh1t lol)--and then you broke the SS text-only-for-logistics code (which is massively outdated & flat out doesn't work for girls in the 18-21 y/o range.

But let me point out a couple flaws in your approach, so that if you're ever in this situation again you'll at least have options if you do want to be the guy on the side.

Fast forward two days later, and i text her for the first time (this was all yesterday), thinking it could be a good thing to just share a couple of fun/flirty texts between classes. I'm gonna show you guys the exact conversation:

Me: Tell me something interesting that nobody knows about you (4:13pm)
Her: About me??? (4:18pm)
Her: I dont knoww (4:18pm)
Her: I'm very emotional (4:18pm)
Her: I feel a lot (4:18pm)
Good up to this point. But then...

Me: Are you? that means you're an artist (4:33pm)
Me: Wild guess here (4:33pm)
Me: Monet fan? (4:33pm)
You go into Comfort/Building Rapport. BUT she already has all that from her BF. She tells you she's emotional--Girl Code: I have a bf but I'm still a passionate person and might not be responsible for what happens (Classic ASD). What do you do? You go all logical. But you advertised yourself as the naughty guy who'd make something happen.

Better responses would've been: Oh God. Trouble ;) Better not catch feelings when I take you out for a strictly platonic cup of coffee this Thursday. You're allowed to have friends, right? (Indirect + Diffuses ASD--Safe, high probability play for someone in your social circle)

OR So this'll be one of those super passionate secret loves. But only if you can be discreet. Tell your boy I'm your gay bff from dance class. (Direct + Might trigger ASD but you can play it off as a joke--Riskier but sets a stage for a faster return & eliminates risk of wasting time).

Until here, i think to myself that it's going pretty smoothly, i think im gonna get some good responses out of it, but she actually turns cold on me, and responds two hour later.

Her: Yeah (6:18pm)
Her: Van Gogh too (6:18pm)

I do the same and respond 4 hours later.

Me: People either love or hate the earless guy (10:29pm)
Me: I bet he's your favorite (10:29pm)
Me: Why do you love him? (10:29pm)

Im thinking this will get her to talk about why van gogh is her favorite artist, what does he make her feel, etc.
She does the same and responds 5 hours later, sounding uninterested.

Her: For his story (1:20am)

Now, at that time i was drinking with some friends and i might've been a little tipsy already, so i responded just 5 minutes after.

Me: What are you doing up so late little girl (1:25am)
Me: What are you up to (1:25am)
Dumb. She has a bf. Only text her when you know she's free to text back--12 pm-2 pm--so she doesn't have to worry about him checking her phone while she sleeps. Do these seem like texts the 'Super Sexy Dancer' would send?

What should you do? Back off, for one. Play it cool. Continue to DHV in dance class--you do a good job using preselection & jealousy plotlines & unreactiveness with full plausible deniability. Can the texts. Joke with her in person and use a little role play & SPEAK TO HER EMOTIONS!!!. I.e. Meet me under the tree in the courtyard tonight at midnight. I'll be the man in the black cape. Or You'll have to invite me to your wedding. I'll stand in the corner with a hat pulled over my eyes. But more than anything just be fun, natural, don't overthink anything & if you sense a window, jump through it.

Or not--there are plenty of downsides to girls with bf's. Especially when you're young, hormonal & aren't sure exactly what you're doing.
 

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Quick note: girls with boyfriends are absolutely not impossible to catch, but if she mentions it early on and there is no progress towards sex in the communication, cut it. Girls will mention boyfriends just as a ****-test sometimes to see how you react. I banged a chick who has a boyfriend about a month ago, about 4 times in different days, at my place and outside. Beautiful sex, but when I invited her out for the 5th time, she broke it off to me and said she has decided to now stay with the boyfriend. In the 4th time, she cried after we had sex, probably it was so good (it was damn good, I can tell you, for both of us) that it started to make her feel like she wants to be my girl, but she doesn't wanna cheat on her boyfriend emotionally and who the hell knows, point being she said she doesn't wanna see me anymore.

In cases like this, be ready to be dropped down at any moment, you gotta expect that and make sure it affects you close to 0. Otherwise, you're on the road to becoming one of many boys who fall for girls in a relationship and that's stupid. Bang her if you can, and that's it.

In general, though, go for ladies that are single more.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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