"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So, the difference between friend-zone and bae-zone is timing?

DiegoSantori

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After reading many opinions and watching a couple of videos, you simply have to be assertive from the very beginning and make out as soon as possible, otherwise she loses respect for you and doesn't see you as man anymore.

So, basically, it's all about timing. Right? I'm of two minds about this. I mean, would a woman really lose respect for George Clooney if he didn't try to kiss her on the first date? Wouldn't she still want him after 3 or 4 weeks even though he doesn't make approaches on her?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Konada

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Personally I think why guys end up in the friendzone is because their actions are incongruent with their intentions. Believe me women can sniff this shvt out so fvcking easy its shocking.

If you want to fvck this girl, show it through your actions. Many guys are stuck in the mindset 'Oh if I do this will she reject me? What if I get slapped? etc.' All this time when the dude is mentally masturbating in his head, he's giving body language cues that he isn't really 'himself'. Most girls would be turned-off by this and hence the 'friendzone'.
 

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Partially. The other part is how interested and attracted she is to you.

You can't multiply or amplify a nonexistent interest level.
 

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nismo-4 said:
Partially. The other part is how interested and attracted she is to you.

You can't multiply or amplify a nonexistent interest level.
this
 

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If you do everything else right you DONT need to kiss on the first date. If you have the right body language , do a lot of kino, assert yourself as a dominant male then that will keep her interested.

I personally find the idea of kissing on the first date repulsive ...lool wtf , I don't know where your lips have been before the date.

I can recall ONLY kissing girls I had a relationship with. Plates and one night stands NEVER .
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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