"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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So my doctor put me on Propranolol (beta-blocker)

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So you can probably already tell where this is going :D

So little sexual interest I love it, I get things done, I'm focused, I see a hot chick and I'm like K. If I'm lucky I'll have one erection a day. But life is bliss right now, don't even want to look at porn, this is so nice.. Going from wanting to 5-7 times a day due to my hyperthyroid to 0 muaahaha I love it. Hopefully there's is no permanent damage, which is why I'm here, I wanted some input from those of you have that have used beta-blockers for an extended time.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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MrWiggles said:
did you not want to have a sex drive?
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Too strong sex drive leads into sexual desperation, the number one enemy to finding a woman to fvck in the first place. I wouldn't want to feel like having sex every other hour of every day, it's disturbing to getting important things done in life.

@GetFit66 Here's what it does: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_blocker
It reduces anxiety including social anxiety, seems like that's the effect you're noticing. It's said to be a pretty safe substance to use.
 
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My sex drive is low. I can watch porn all day and not get a boner. I am chock full of testosterone. My t level is at about 1000 due to injections. Why is my sex drive so low? I have no clue. I do know that once I start making out with an actual woman my drive increases. I have to have physical presence to desire sex. I do get bored of sex sometimes too. It's funny because I am bored with the women I am ****ing right now. More in the pipeline though.
 
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dustmuffin said:
My sex drive is low. I can watch porn all day and not get a boner. I am chock full of testosterone. My t level is at about 1000 due to injections. Why is my sex drive so low? I have no clue. I do know that once I start making out with an actual woman my drive increases. I have to have physical presence to desire sex. I do get bored of sex sometimes too. It's funny because I am bored with the women I am ****ing right now. More in the pipeline though.
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This could be due to your estrogen levels. They could be too high if you arent taking an AI since you said you were on injections. Have your dr run some bloodwork. Your estrogen level is either too high or if you are on an AI they might be too low.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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MrWiggles said:
This could be due to your estrogen levels. They could be too high if you arent taking an AI since you said you were on injections. Have your dr run some bloodwork. Your estrogen level is either too high or if you are on an AI they might be too low.
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Ty I will do that.
 
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dustmuffin said:
My sex drive is low. I can watch porn all day and not get a boner. I am chock full of testosterone. My t level is at about 1000 due to injections. Why is my sex drive so low? I have no clue. I do know that once I start making out with an actual woman my drive increases. I have to have physical presence to desire sex. I do get bored of sex sometimes too. It's funny because I am bored with the women I am ****ing right now. More in the pipeline though.
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doesn't matter about actual T levels (thats how much total test, free and bound to SHBG, which cannot be used unless debound), how much free test do you have? How high is your DHT? How high or low is your estrogen?
 
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Idk the doctor does blood work every six weeks and adjusts accordingly. Right now I'm taking a pill for water retention.
 
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Please keep us updated on this. I'm very interested in beta blockers and @dustmuffin 's testosterone stuff. If there's something that's SAFE that I could take to improve my brain function and/or sex stuff, etc. I'd be interested in looking into it
 
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AlexLefty1 said:
Please keep us updated on this. I'm very interested in beta blockers and @dustmuffin 's testosterone stuff. If there's something that's SAFE that I could take to improve my brain function and/or sex stuff, etc. I'd be interested in looking into it
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I'll ask my doc about it. I do feel much better with the injections. I get one injection a week. I get weighed everytime for water retention and the blood work every six weeks. It costs me about 160 usd a month with insurance.

Some guys on here buy their own testosterone online and inject themselves. It's cheaper that way but I would rather be under a docs care.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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