"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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So is this why you dont take advice from girls?

irocknike23

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I have a very close chick friend who has been my friend for 5 years now. We are good friends and no, before you guys ask I am not stuck in the friendzone, this chick is like my sister. But she does have a lot of dudes after her, if I had to rate her she would easily be a 9.3.


Last night she called me up because she was flipping out because the dude that she cheated with on her BF was making threats that he was gona tell the world. After about an hour convo I calmed her down and basically told her he was bluffing(which he was). But then we got to talking and I asked her what she saw in the dude she cheated with

HERE IS WHERE MONTHS OF READING THE DJ BIBLE CONTRADICTED EVERYTHING I LEARNED:

She told me that the reason she cheated with this other dude because he would "listen to her problems", "he was a sweetheart", "he was kind and nice and overall a good dude".......but later she goes on to tell me that eventually after 2 months into banging this dude she find out he is "a jerk and an a-hole", "too ****y and has too many girls that want him"


WTF! What my chick friend told me is the opposite of everything I learned around here and the DJ bible for years.

Basically she said....nice guys who listens to all my problems=dude I want to bang regardless if I have BF. Once I find out he is a jerk and an a-hole I was turned off by this and did not want anything to do with him.

This confuses the hell out of me and this is coming straight from the girls mouth. And the way she made this dude sound at first, he sounded like a lot of you who come in here and post your classic nice guy story which turns into failure...


But then I remembered that someone around here told me to never take advice from girls...is this why?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Ringleader41

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She probably thought he was hot and thats all he needed to be. This site was made for ugly guys to have a chance at getting laid.
 

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That dude's GOTTA be good looking.

"too ****y and has too many girls that want him"
This should back up my response. I'm sure many girls would never want an ugly dude.
 

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Backwards rationalizing. If "in the beginning" he was kind and good, that justifies your good girl pal falling for him in the first place. NOT ONLY THAT BUT IT JUSTIFIES HER CHEATING ON HER BF. It wasn't with a "jerk" it was with a nice guy who was stepping up when her BF wasn't. So it's perfectly okay what she did lol

In reality, he was probably a "jerk" and an "*******" from the jump. That's why she branch-swung.

So yep good title. This is why we don't go to girls for advice.
 

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NewAndImproved said:
Backwards rationalizing. If "in the beginning" he was kind and good, that justifies your good girl pal falling for him in the first place. NOT ONLY THAT BUT IT JUSTIFIES HER CHEATING ON HER BF. It wasn't with a "jerk" it was with a nice guy who was stepping up when her BF wasn't. So it's perfectly okay what she did lol

In reality, he was probably a "jerk" and an "*******" from the jump. That's why she branch-swung.

So yep good title. This is why we don't go to girls for advice.
This, basically. He was all good and great - rationalizing WHY she liked him. She liked him because he was ****y, arrogant, a bit of an *******, etc. She rationalizes all of it (though he probably listed for a minute and shut her down) by saying he's nice and great and way better than her boyfriend.

When the type of guy he was comes back to bite her, all of a sudden it's being rationalized in a different manner.

So yeah, don't take advice from a woman. Very few understand their own inner workings. It's all about the internal hamster running in the background.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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You never take advice from women because they have no idea what they (or other women) really want. They will tell you that they want a sweet, romantic guy who will chase after them and shower them with love and attention while listening to all of their problems.

The crazy thing is, they aren't lying, they actually THINK that they want those things because society tells them they should want those things and it makes logical sense to want them. The problem is, those things don't create ATTRACTION. In fact, the opposite creates and holds attraction, as you've read in the DJ Bible and from countless other men throughout the world.

Your friend was attracted to this guy because he was a jerk, an a-hole, ****y and especially because there were many other women that want him. He always was those things, and it turned her on. Period.
 

irocknike23

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MikeOck said:
You never take advice from women because they have no idea what they (or other women) really want. They will tell you that they want a sweet, romantic guy who will chase after them and shower them with love and attention while listening to all of their problems.

The crazy thing is, they aren't lying, they actually THINK that they want those things because society tells them they should want those things and it makes logical sense to want them. The problem is, those things don't create ATTRACTION. In fact, the opposite creates and holds attraction, as you've read in the DJ Bible and from countless other men throughout the world.

Your friend was attracted to this guy because he was a jerk, an a-hole, ****y and especially because there were many other women that want him. He always was those things, and it turned her on. Period.
Well said dude
 

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Hind sight is always 20/20. It's like slipping in a ditch, getting wet and muddy, all your friends laughing at you, and the next day you go "pfft! I meant to do that"
 

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MikeOck said:
You never take advice from women because they have no idea what they (or other women) really want. They will tell you that they want a sweet, romantic guy who will chase after them and shower them with love and attention while listening to all of their problems.

The crazy thing is, they aren't lying, they actually THINK that they want those things because society tells them they should want those things and it makes logical sense to want them. The problem is, those things don't create ATTRACTION. In fact, the opposite creates and holds attraction, as you've read in the DJ Bible and from countless other men throughout the world.

Your friend was attracted to this guy because he was a jerk, an a-hole, ****y and especially because there were many other women that want him. He always was those things, and it turned her on. Period.
Women know what they want. Don't kid yourself. They want an attractive muscle bound jerk who is also a millionaire! Women aren't logical, when they sound as such, they're parroting the media.

Ask women for advice and she'll give beta male qualities. But we men know that women truly desire the alphas and SETTLE for the betas.
 

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irocknike23 said:
but later she goes on to tell me that eventually after 2 months into banging this dude she find out he is "a jerk and an a-hole", "too ****y and has too many girls that want him"
Doesn't take 2 months of banging to realize the guy's an a-hole. He either kicked her to the curb or they're still banging low-key. Women tell on themselves if you know what to listen for
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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