"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So I went to a gangbang (some adult content)

Luthor Rex

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Buy a man a hooker and you get him laid for an evening.

Teach a man to sarge and you get him laid for a lifetime.
I think Jesus said something like that... :confused:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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you were lucky it was real gangbang. I read the news about a guy who was robbed of his money on this kind of Craiglist ad.

Craiglist is full of shaddy women. Gangbang is so unsafe.
 

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Luthor Rex said:
I think Jesus said something like that... :confused:
Yup he did. He's a cool guy
picard said:
you were lucky it was real gangbang. I read the news about a guy who was robbed of his money on this kind of Craiglist ad.

Craiglist is full of shaddy women. Gangbang is so unsafe.
The danger is no greater or less than getting an escort who wants you to meet her at a place of her choosing. There is bound to be some risk in these types of things when it isn't exactly legal.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Buy a man a hooker and you get him laid for an evening.

Teach a man to sarge and you get him laid for a lifetime.
Hey a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do. It's as simple as that. You only live once, might as well bang as many attractive women as you can, while you can. Isn't it better Maxtro resorted to that, than getting nothing at all? For all the guys who bash using prostitutes, think about that for a second. It's better to use the services of a high-end prostitute, than to get nothing at all. Like I said, you only live once, time is ticking fast, and if you're a guy who doesn't get many opportunities with attractive women, you'd be a fool not to take advantage of it.
 

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lucky everything went ok, go once have the "experience" which is actually quite cool to talk about, with guys ;-) and now look to improve yourself as a whole.

Paying for sex or going to these kind of events long-term will hurt self-esteem because you know deep down it is wrong action also you are losing self worth.

thankyou for sharing a well-written honest insight into another world, was a fun read.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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kingy said:
Paying for sex or going to these kind of events long-term will hurt self-esteem because you know deep down it is wrong action also you are losing self worth.
It's never hurt my self-esteem. I'm still as confident as ever. I'm a definite prize, I know what I'm about. If I could make love to myself, I would(lol, you get the idea).
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Buy a man a hooker and you get him laid for an evening.

Teach a man to sarge and you get him laid for a lifetime.
And you think those two are mutually exclusive because???


Sometimes getting a hooker is simply a lot easier and quicker and more convenient than "sarging."

There are some in the "community" who feel that sarging itself is an AFC trait. Purposely going out and structuring your behavior to "pick up women" somehow puts you in the category of a needy beta male, looking to say the "right" things and do the "right" actions in hopes that she will stoop down form her bloated social pedastal and allow you to seduce her.

Guys in that camp believe you should just live your life, and if you happen to see an interesting female, then you approach, qualify and filter her accordingly. If you happen to have 30 minutes to kill on the way home from work, you stop in at the rub-n-tug.

Personally I concur with Charlie Sheen's take on hookers:

"It's not that I pay them for the sex, I pay them to leave right afterward."

To each his own, I guess.
 

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taiyuu_otoko said:
And you think those two are mutually exclusive because???


Sometimes getting a hooker is simply a lot easier and quicker and more convenient than "sarging."

There are some in the "community" who feel that sarging itself is an AFC trait. Purposely going out and structuring your behavior to "pick up women" somehow puts you in the category of a needy beta male, looking to say the "right" things and do the "right" actions in hopes that she will stoop down form her bloated social pedastal and allow you to seduce her.

Guys in that camp believe you should just live your life, and if you happen to see an interesting female, then you approach, qualify and filter her accordingly. If you happen to have 30 minutes to kill on the way home from work, you stop in at the rub-n-tug.

Personally I concur with Charlie Sheen's take on hookers:

"It's not that I pay them for the sex, I pay them to leave right afterward."

To each his own, I guess.
Good luck trying to get the 'Iron Rule Police' to even consider another point of view.

I don't condone using prostitutes. But you do have a very valid point, when it comes to this discussion.
 

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This dude wanted *****, he went out and got it without harming anyone in the process. He enjoyed himself. That is what everybody should do.
No. Being a real man means having self-dignity, self-pride....letting the mind control the body rather than living on the whim of the man downstairs. Going to a gangbang or orgy is the polar opposite of what a real man would do.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Interesting post, good read.

I say, you only live once!

Although I don't know if I was a guy, if I would do something like this. I'd probably just try to have a threesome or foursome with me being the only guy, and getting all of the attention.
 

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Darth said:
No. Being a real man means having self-dignity, self-pride....letting the mind control the body rather than living on the whim of the man downstairs. Going to a gangbang or orgy is the polar opposite of what a real man would do.
Obviously I disagree. Letting the mind always control the body is not a good thing. The mind is the source of irrational fear. It is the reason why men are afraid to cold approach and make moves on women. The vast majority of men really have nothing to physically fear from a woman. If I somehow get into a physical fight with a chick, I would win 9 times out of 10.

That doesn't really matter though, because men are afraid of getting their ego hurt or being embarrassed. But you know what? The dick doesn't have an ego. dbot's thread pretty much sums it up. Long story short, sometimes the man downstairs needs to be in control or else things will not get done.

BTW if I didn't do stuff like this I'd be a 28 year old virgin, possibly on my way to being the next George Sodini. These actions let me have some fun in life and tell that there still is hope.

iqqi said:
Interesting post, good read.

I say, you only live once!

Although I don't know if I was a guy, if I would do something like this. I'd probably just try to have a threesome or foursome with me being the only guy, and getting all of the attention.
Trust me, I would absolutely love a threesome or foursome with me and 2 or 3 girls. It's the most common male sex fantasy and only a lucky few get to enjoy it.

Lucky for women, is that if they have the same fantasy, them with 2 to 3 guys, a girl can not only do it, she can also make money in the process by charging the guys. Heh, what a world we live in.
 

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iqqi said:
Although I don't know if I was a guy, if I would do something like this. I'd probably just try to have a threesome or foursome with me being the only guy, and getting all of the attention.
So iqqi, what is your gangbang count up to?
 

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Arcadia which is very close to Pasadena.

Oh, well no wonder.

Props to you Maxtro. I could never touch chicks like that. Ugh.
 

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another story

well this is an ill story to one day i was at my best friends house and we were smoking some weed and there was girls with us they were all he same ages as us btw i am 17 and this happened last week well anyway the girls got really leik horny so i played this gummy bear game where you blindfold the girls and you feed them gummi bears and you make them guess well if they get it wrong them take off a peice of their clothing so we got them naked and we both had a threesome it was ****ign awesome lol.:D
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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wow strong aids
 

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I've been in on two 2on1, (2males/1 female) and in High School, it was like 4 on 1. But the 4 on 1 was 4 drunk guys and 1 drunk female. I don't think anyone actually busted one. But the other 2 we did :). That was back 25 yrs or more ago.

The 2 on 1's were not really GB's, but the funny part is on one of them, I lined up a good friend with a FB, for whateevr reason he didn't scr*w her thier date night, he brings her over on a Sunday AM to my house, where I'm getting ready for a Sunday afternoon date, I no sooner get out of the shower, and this girls humping me with my friend looking on. He joined in a bit later.---and in case your wondering, I DID shower again before I went on the afternoon date! :)
 

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i actually got the balls to try this out myself based on the fact that everyone who does it says good things about hiring an escort
and the fact that you suggested $200-$300

i found a non pro girl on criagslist adult gigs

i met her in a parking lot

i showed up an 1/2 hour early but at the last minute she changed the spot to meet...i totally surveyed the area looking for anything suspicious

i was super sketched but so was she

she was cute, friendly, normal

we had a convo maybe 2 minutes in her back seat

and for $80 i got something like this
http://www.xvideos.com/video156900/blonde_throat_is_used

im definitely glad i went through with this and dont have any regrets

lol

im sick
 

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this is easily the best post I have ever read here lmao
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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