"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So I want to be a seducer

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I really like the idea of manipulating and persuading girls, any girl I want into doing what I wish for them to do. I want to be a professional type seducer. I think I have the mentality I just don't know where to start.

I've checked out 48 Laws of Power and a book on Persuasion to get me started somewhat..I need some insight though.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Are you serious??? you got beaten up a lot in school didn't you? The pretty girl wouldnt go to the prom with you? If that is your main goal in life you have biger issues then trying to manipulate women. work on yourself first.
 

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Dr. box, lol, what does getting your azz kicked in school have to do wit it, lol....

Hey bro, I though NLP, seduction and all that was great, but when I learned to be the dominant male, and to have women naturally want to fvck me, it made my life easier, as women become attracted before and without me even saying anything,
 

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Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
Dr. box, lol, what does getting your azz kicked in school have to do wit it, lol....

Hey bro, I though NLP, seduction and all that was great, but when I learned to be the dominant male, and to have women naturally want to fvck me, it made my life easier, as women become attracted before and without me even saying anything,
LOL not quite sure but it sounded good at the time :D
 

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Those kinds of people end up quite unhappy most of the time. you would be better off learning how to create attraction in others, and using that to attract a good girl, and at least having some form of relationship. even being a PUA is better than being a seducer. I mean, finding horny chicks is one thing, but making women fall for you just for fun, then leaving them?

Low dude...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Lock the thread. We don't ' manipulate ' to have women as our ' slaves '.
 

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This post seemed rather unintentionally funny, so I thought I would chime in on a subject that I have already done to death.
I really like the idea of manipulating and persuading girls.
Why? And why delude yourself into thinking that’s even possible?
any girl I want into doing what I wish for them to do.
“Any girl” is such a farce. And how do you find that that would emotionally satisfy you in the long-run?
I want to be a professional type seducer.
Every man who goes through that path eventually, invariably, shuns it as a delusion. For quality examples, look up Pook, SexPDX, MasterOfTheUniverse, and thecraftylefty.
I need some insight though.
Stop now while you’re still ahead. You are only seventeen years old, you have not wasted years of your life immersed in a delusion. Any fool can learn from their mistakes, but it takes a wise man to learn from the mistakes of others.
 

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Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
but when I learned to be the dominant male, and to have women naturally want to fvck me, it made my life easier, as women become attracted before and without me even saying anything,
Holy cow, someone who gets it!
 

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Dude, you got issues if you want to manipulate girls and do all this **** to them. What the hell is wrong with you?

Seriously, get help.
 

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Originally posted by That_Guy49
I really like the idea of manipulating and persuading girls, any girl I want into doing what I wish for them to do. I want to be a professional type seducer. I think I have the mentality I just don't know where to start.

I've checked out 48 Laws of Power and a book on Persuasion to get me started somewhat..I need some insight though.
Listen, boy. The devil has gotten into you. Be careful with what you wish for. Do you want the "attraction" to you to be fake, or in a genuine way?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Courage+Personality+Self-Respect+Decisiveness= More Women In Your Life

Start Shez's boot camp and read the DJ bible...
 

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Originally posted by That_Guy49
umm..So 48 laws of Power isn't a good start?
I can't help you on that one. What is the book about? If you gave us a basic idea of what the book suggests then maybe people could offer opinions on the advice given
 

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I've read the 48 Laws of Power, it was recommended to me by a local politician I used to work for.

It's a good book for learning sneaky tactics either to spot them or to use them. It opens your eyes into the different dimensions of how people operate and teaches you that nothing is ever what it seems. Sometimes seemingly innocent actions or series of actions may lead up to a consequence you would have never expected.

By learning the 48 Laws of Power - that is 48 tactics that you can use to enchance your power - you become more aware of whats going on around you and also your mind starts thinking of ways to use these to your advantage in getting what you want.

I would say that book is far more useful for people going into business and politics, as it would teach you how to make the most out of the situations you're in. As far as how it applies to women, I suppose there are some specific laws of power in that book that might be applied to that field as well.

But none of those or few of those are things we already don't know as DJs, for example not being always available to raise your value, etc.
 

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Several things seem to cause the desire to want to become the ultimate seducer. Having gone through this myself (as Deep Dish has pointed out), I have become convinced that the underlying theme that ties together those who aspire to this grandeur is a feeling that their life has somehow become out of control. Such a feeling can be the result of any number of things. So what happens is that they take the one thing that is universally sought after by men, sex with women, and cling to it wanting to have as much control over it as possible. That's my Oliver Stone theory about the whole thing anyway.

Most guys who do this seem to snap out of it, develop other more healthy interests and come to think of the time they spent trying to become the seduction master of the universe as largely wasted and in some ways mildly embarassing. However, a few so afflicted people NEVER resume a more "normal" life such as Mystery (pick up master and ASF legend for those unfamiliar with him).
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Originally posted by SexPDX
Several things seem to cause the desire to want to become the ultimate seducer. Having gone through this myself (as Deep Dish has pointed out), I have become convinced that the underlying theme that ties together those who aspire to this grandeur is a feeling that their life has somehow become out of control. Such a feeling can be the result of any number of things. So what happens is that they take the one thing that is universally sought after by men, sex with women, and cling to it wanting to have as much control over it as possible. That's my Oliver Stone theory about the whole thing anyway.

Most guys who do this seem to snap out of it, develop other more healthy interests and come to think of the time they spent trying to become the seduction master of the universe as largely wasted and in some ways mildly embarassing. However, a few so afflicted people NEVER resume a more "normal" life such as Mystery (pick up master and ASF legend for those unfamiliar with him).

You finally get it. It only took you 3 years. Thanks for posting it here. Now, if only the other 18,000 posters would get it....

Welcome back tricky nick.
 

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Originally posted by Paradox

Welcome back tricky nick.
Haha, don't get too excited. I don't have any plans of lurking or posting here or anywhere else on a regular basis. But it's good to stop in once and a while and do searches on my name to see what (if anything) is being said about my old posts/ideas.
 

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Originally posted by SexPDX
Haha, don't get too excited. I don't have any plans of lurking or posting here or anywhere else on a regular basis. But it's good to stop in once and a while and do searches on my name to see what (if anything) is being said about my old posts/ideas.
Who let this guy back on the forum??? :D

Good to see you man!

I just crept back here a few months ago after leaving this place for a good 2 years. It's like an addictive drug, once you start posting again.
 

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Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
It's like an addictive drug, once you start posting again.
Hahaha! Yeah, there was a while where it was hard to keep from posting. In fact, there were times when I actually ANNOUNCED that I was taking a break only to come back and give in to the temptation to post again in a weak moment, which I am sure looked silly.

Anymore, however, I have so many things competing for my attention that I don't feel there is a great risk that I will resume a lifestyle of interminable online discussion of seduction combined with non-stop neurotic compulsive cold approaching of countless women practicing "advanced" seduction techniques of mind-bending complexity.
 

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non-stop neurotic compulsive cold approaching of countless women practicing "advanced" seduction techniques of mind-bending complexity.
Bro, it's called "Sarging". Have you forgotten the all the lingo and the secret handshake so soon?:)

Good to see you still around. We should talk soon.

Happy Holidays.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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