ShortyBrown
Master Don Juan
Again, if he could've just been honest, and phucking kept his s-hit real for whatever reason, NO PROBLEM. But he had made indications that he would not have a problem with seeing me again.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Another good post to show why women shouldn't be on these boards. Just another scared little girl who can't handle rejection.Originally posted by ShortyBrown
So I call him up. I spell it out for him that I want his azz. This is what I get (and I s-hit you not people this is what he said) "look, you and I had some fun but this is honestly just not in my nature. I am drawing the line here. " oooook.
So I am drawing a few conslusions:
1. He doesn't find you attractive1. He hasn't come out.
2. He's found someone less *****y.2. He is a scared little boy.
3. He doesn't like your whorish ways.3. He one of these idiots with a small d-ick that cannot handle a female that goes after someone that she wants without taking it to mean that she is a psycho stalker who has invites to the wedding printed already.
4. He found someone more attractive than you.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
See how you're ego was affected. You'll notice a lot of people talking about not being some girls slave - it shocks them + they dont know how to handle it. This is our fault (men) because we do tend to just let you have your way (we want sex + have to work for it... or thats what we think.)3. He one of these idiots with a small d-ick that cannot handle a female that goes after someone that she wants without taking it to mean that she is a psycho stalker who has invites to the wedding printed already.
If he could've said straight up after our date that the feeling wasn't mutual I could say cool. But the mofo couldn't help himself and had to go on an ego trip. Ah well.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Dude-of course the old ego took a hammering. I'm a cute girl, so whats the prob? s-hit happens. I'll live. I'm taken aback a fair bit by all of this. Usually, I am the one having to tell the lads to take a cold shower!Originally posted by JR2003
Ah what a poor girl(or Boy
)
2 things.. first off, does every girl wanna sleep with a guy after a first date (and what seemed a casual one!) Answer: NO. Why do you think it would be different for a guy?
2nd...
See how you're ego was affected. You'll notice a lot of people talking about not being some girls slave - it shocks them + they dont know how to handle it. This is our fault (men) because we do tend to just let you have your way (we want sex + have to work for it... or thats what we think.)
Just because he didn't want you on that night doesn't mean he's soft or whatever. Perhaps not everybody fancies you + some people can resist your charms
Perhaps he has old-fashioned ideals - thats not a bad thing. If you do want him then stick with him, if you want sex - just go out to a club. Should be easy for you.
yes it is and you know it!Originally posted by ShortyBrown
It's not about being knocked back! For crying out loud!
Men are two faced. Women are two faced. Honesty gets you nowhere. So whaddya do? [/B]
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
hey donjohn,Originally posted by DonJohn83
I can understand the guy...
There are guys out there (i am one of them) that consider sex to be serious.
i dont agree with what your saying here, its because i know of a few people who always say they can, but never do.I know for a fact that i could have slept with many attractive girls but chose not to because of personal values. The more attractive they are, the harder it is... pardon the pun.
i agree with what your saying hereI think he's the type of guy who thinks sex is meaningful and should be reserved for the right girl. LTR stuff im talkin.
Its inconsistent with most guy's mentality of "bang every chick i can", but we do exist y'know.
Maybe I'm not as cute as I think I am. To each his own. Put it this way, I have slept with more sober men than drunk/stoned ones. But again, I have to be careful about what I say about my appearence because that puts a girl in the AW category here.Originally posted by princelydeeds
I haven't knocked you for being forward about sex. I would love it if women just came forward and asked me for my d!ck. Unless you are a hideous beast, Id probably give it to you as reawrd for being so straight forward. It doesnt make a woman a slut in my mind it just means she knows what she wants and has the nuts to go for it. It makes life easy when a woman knows what she wants and isnt afraid to go for it. Maybe its an age thing.
Honestly, I think you must be ugly. I cant imagine a guy who would turn down free sex from a decent looking chick and by decent I mean a a true 6 on a 10 scale. But hey i guess there are a few. I have pretty high standards in terms of who I date but even I dip into the bottom of the pool when Im drunk at 2 AM.![]()
yeah i read about one of you guys in a ripleys believe it or not mag, thats a great trick you got there.Originally posted by DonJohn83
There are guys out there (i am one of them) that consider sex to be serious.
And i agree with what you say here.Originally posted by TTAG
i dont agree with what your saying here, its because i know of a few people who always say they can, but never do.
No no, you just need to get yourself a sense of humor.Originally posted by ( . )( . )
or maybe im thinking to much?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.