MisterMike
Don Juan
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I'm noticing women seem to expect a level excitement in a conversation right off the bat. Anyone else experienced this or is just my perception?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Oddly enough, I used to be in the "I don't like small talk" crowd. Then I learned....I've made the mistake of under estimating the power of small talk before, especially when getting to know someone.
There are many aspects of good conversation: small talk, debate, philosophy, banter, humour, opinion, public affairs etc etc. A good conversationalist is well versed in all, and does not rely on one or another thing in particular.
It's good to hold conversation with lots of different people every day, not just got girls. Then, when one does turn up, you go completely unphased, to whatever happens.
Who cares what they ‘expect?’I'm noticing women seem to expect a level excitement in a conversation right off the bat. Anyone else experienced this or is just my perception?
I will absolutely look into that as it sounds very insightful. The situation I've run into seems a bit more strange, it happens rarely but I noticed because it happened twice in one day.There is a good book by an engineer on the subject that is worth a read.
The Fine Art of Small Talk by Debra Fine.
In it she goes through various methods to improve your conversational skills and increase your social calibration.
And she was a naturally geeky introvert by her own admission. It's quite a practical book, short, and useful. Order a copy.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
This is good advice. What I'm talking about isn't that far into the conversation though it's literally in the opening 2 to 4 four sentences before any of that can take place.In my experience, less is more.
Nothing gets a pvssy more drier than long political debates, endless opiniated wallowing or trying to impress her with you standup comedy skills.
Just be the empty projection screen on which she can project herself, let her do the talking, all you need to do is show with your body language that you want her sexually.
That sounds like the old joke about the marine who gets slapped a lot.Who cares what they ‘expect?’
Can’t fall into their frame bro. Do you want to sleep with them, be their friend, or impress them? If you want to sleep with them, the less time you have for small talk and get to the point, the more likely they will think you are a man with options.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.