"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I must be doing something wrong. I can get the number but no further then the call, which lasted 20 seconds...

Me: (her name)?
Her: Yeah?
Me: Hey, its slitherjef, whats going on?
Her: Hey... (sounding suprised)
Me: You sound suprised
Her: Yeah, took me a moment to realize who you where
Me: Ah, I see, so hows it going?
Her: Hey.... can I call you back, I got to console my roomate
Me: Yeah, sure. Thats cool. Bye
Her: Bye

Yeah so... I don't know. :confused:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I told ya she would flake. lol I was right.
 

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slitherjef said:
I must be doing something wrong. I can get the number but no further then the call, which lasted 20 seconds...
Let's bring in an interpreter...

Me: (her name)?
Interpretation: I hope this isn't a wrong number...
Her: Yeah?
Interpretation: Who the f#$%?
Me: Hey, its slitherjef, whats going on?
Interpretation: HOT DAMN!!! IT'S REALLY HER NUMBER!!!
Her: Hey... (sounding suprised)
Interpretation: Damn, I forgot I gave out my number....
Me: You sound suprised
Interpretation: Didn't think I'd call, did 'ya?
Her: Yeah, took me a moment to realize who you where
Interpretation: ****, he did call...
Me: Ah, I see, so hows it going?
Interpretation: I don't have much to say, hopefully you'll carry the conversation...
Her: Hey.... can I call you back, I got to console my roomate
Interpretation: You wish....
Me: Yeah, sure. Thats cool. Bye
Interpretation: I wonder what would Pradeep have done?
Her: Bye
Interpretation: Don't y'all call back now, y'hear!
slitherjef said:
Yeah so... I don't know.
Some things to remember:
  1. Women will give their number to guys whether they are interested in them or not. If all you are looking for is her number and she isn't interested, why shouldn't she give it to you if she knows you will go away once you get it?
  2. Getting her real number doesn't mean she's interested. She'll give you her real number if she isn't interested because she isn't quick enough to think of a fake number off the top of her head (don't laugh).
  3. Number's are overrated. What do you really want from a woman you've just met? Another meeting, right? Is it necessary to get her number first? HELL NO! If you want to get together with a woman at a later time, why not tell her; she's right in front of you! You'll have to have a specific day and place in mind to make this work though (no, you can't just ask and run away, you need a plan). If she's truly interested, she'll agree and there's a higher possibility that she will give you her real telephone number in case you can't make it and would need to get in touch with her to reschedule.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Some things to remember:
  1. Women will give their number to guys whether they are interested in them or not. If all you are looking for is her number and she isn't interested, why shouldn't she give it to you if she knows you will go away once you get it?
  2. Getting her real number doesn't mean she's interested. She'll give you her real number if she isn't interested because she isn't quick enough to think of a fake number off the top of her head (don't laugh).
  3. Number's are overrated. What do you really want from a woman you've just met? Another meeting, right? Is it necessary to get her number first? HELL NO! If you want to get together with a woman at a later time, why not tell her; she's right in front of you! You'll have to have a specific day and place in mind to make this work though (no, you can't just ask and run away, you need a plan). If she's truly interested, she'll agree and there's a higher possibility that she will give you her real telephone number in case you can't make it and would need to get in touch with her to reschedule.
That is really messed up. Why doesn't she just say that she isn't interested. Does she actually think that the guy who asked her for her number will not call her? Are women really that stupid?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Yes.

Not many guys actually do end up calling. lol exept for the desperate guys on this site.
 

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Maxtro said:
That is really messed up. Why doesn't she just that she isn't interested. Does she actually think that the guy who asked her for her number will not call her? Are women really that stupid?
No, they aren't stupid. They just really have a hard time actually saying the words "I'm not really interested." Unless they are a frozen hearted, man hating, bull-dyke feminazi of course. :p

Alright, that or if they are surrounded by their drunken girlfriends in a club and they have combined their individual "powers of the poon" into one huge poonani tsunami. :p
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
No, they aren't stupid. They just really have a hard time actually saying the words "I'm not really interested." Unless they are a frozen hearted, man hating, bull-dyke feminazi of course. :p

Alright, that or if they are surrounded by their drunken girlfriends in a club and they have combined their individual "powers of the poon" into one huge poonani tsunami. :p
Now that I think about it, my Interpersonal Communication professor calls it woman ese (Why is that blocked by the filter?). So much to learn about this game.

BTW love the poonani tsunami :D
 

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Unless you build rapport during the approach you really shouldn't call her. WHY? What are you going to talk about>?

The time you got her #.?!

Without rapport you have nothing.

Well you have her #.

But you already have all the #'s you will ever need. It is called a 'Phone Book.'

And unless you build rapport: That phone book is just as good as getting her #.

And that is another reason I hate the 'so called DA' that is going around here like the flu!
 

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Why doesn't she just say that she isn't interested.
I'll tell you why!!

Because the first words out of your mouth will be "Why not?" :cry: (Please don't even try to deny this.)

So WTF, now she has to make up this polite, verbal explanation of why she doesn't like some strange guy?? Fvck that. You cannot go expecting any fellow human being to go to that much trouble for a random stranger.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Phyzzle said:
I'll tell you why!!

Because the first words out of your mouth will be "Why not?" :cry: (Please don't even try to deny this.)

So WTF, now she has to make up this polite, verbal explanation of why she doesn't like some strange guy?? Fvck that. You cannot go expecting any fellow human being to go to that much trouble for a random stranger.
Actually, I wouldn't say why not. If she's not interested then I know she isn't interested. It's pointless to try and convince somebody to be attracted to you. This is espically true if it's just some random girl I've met for the first time. But if it is a girl that I've spoken with on several occasions and I know her than I will ask something similar to why not but deffinetly not in those words.
 

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slitherjef said:
I must be doing something wrong. I can get the number but no further then the call, which lasted 20 seconds...

Me: (her name)?
Her: Yeah?
Me: Hey, its slitherjef, whats going on?
Her: Hey... (sounding suprised)
Me: You sound suprised
Her: Yeah, took me a moment to realize who you where
Me: Ah, I see, so hows it going?
Her: Hey.... can I call you back, I got to console my roomate
Me: Yeah, sure. Thats cool. Bye
Her: Bye

Yeah so... I don't know. :confused:

Hey do this.. Pretend you know her really well before calling her - yea call this chick again right now.


You: Hey, Jessie, listen up.. I'm going for a coffee to Star Bucks, would you like to join me, so I could see if you qualified to be with me?

Her: ................. NOOOO

You: Ok then, your loss..


High value voice throughout, well pitched, proper pauses, confident.. Just do it, don't think about it.



Write back with results.
 

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Phyzzle said:
I'll tell you why!!

Because the first words out of your mouth will be "Why not?" :cry: (Please don't even try to deny this.)

So WTF, now she has to make up this polite, verbal explanation of why she doesn't like some strange guy?? Fvck that. You cannot go expecting any fellow human being to go to that much trouble for a random stranger.
And this is why it's easier for her to just give you a phone number, even if it is hers. It much easier to just ignore you from afar.
 

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Just an update. I ran into her today at work. She said hey and told me she was sorry for not callin back (following a bit). I told her it was all good, I had to fix a pc then went on my way. I ran into her a bit later on break so I started talking to her more. Mostly me asking stuff she does give me long answers. I told her a bit of info about my self on the subject we where on. I told her I was a drop out. She ask what grade I dropped out at an I told her 10th at that point we get interupted and we each start talking to the person interupting us.

I think she is a cool chick. I like her. Seems like she would fun to hang out with. But there is probably nothing there
Or she is just not interested.

I don't think she is going to be in the store much longer. She is leaving to china in a few months.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You got nothing to lose by asking her again.
 

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slitherjef said:
...I told her a bit of info about my self on the subject we where on. I told her I was a drop out....
Out of curiosity, what other tid-bits did you tell her about yourself?
 

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Yeah not the ideal nugget of information to leave on..
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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