“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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So, I asked this 47+ Asian Cambodian Cougar Out. This is

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Personality: very people friendly type and witty as if she's been around the block.. Always busy at work

She works at a local poker room. I see her almost couple times a week whenever i go. First time i saw her, 10 months ago, i asked for her nationality and she said "cambodian" and told her that she looks good then she asked me for mine, then she walks me to my poker table. (I just tried to play it cool)

6-5 months ago,I've been working out over the months, i looked even better after that first encounter
1. She has commented me on the rings that i wear
2. When she saw me not wear a hat, she said i "looking good honey"
So, i head over to my table as usual as she is busy (i flirt with her a bit but not much because i've already told her she looks good months ago)
3. She would touch me on the arm.. (ive always thought maybe she is just too damn friendly and its her job to make customers feel welcomed)

So i wanted to get to the bottom of it, so a month later, i found a small window of opportunity and asked her out while we were on one side of the room away from most players (and she's busy, always moving around seating players)

me: i like the blonde hair matched with your blue out fit.
Cougar: oh thank you honey
Me: so, whats your status, single, married, divorced, swinger?
Cougar: oh i'm single
Me, We should go out sometimes!
Cougar: oh i would love to honey, just wait for me later, but prepare to take some heat
Me: So she sits me down as usual

So, i ended up not waiting for her because i lost my money early and just left the poker room. And didn't want to look like a chump "waiting" for an answer

I disappear for 2 months after that and show up in the poker room around christmas time. I sign up at the podium to get seated and she greets me from behind and gives me a hug (im assuming it dont mean much and maybe just a way of saying no hard feelings so ill just give u a hug ) and i greeted her merry christmas back. And as usual, i went to my table

Fast forward 2 months (February) , recently i started going again, i'd just greet her as if nothing happened and play it cool and she is always moving around as she is busy managing the room. I figured, i already did my part and that there's nothing more for me to say at this point from here on. The ball is basically in her court.

Am i doing this right? What am i missing?

Worst comes to worst, she aint interested and thats ok.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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You are wasting your time. This is what happens when you lack options, any chick that gives you the time of day causes you to run in hamster overdrive...
 

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i am lacking options but i want to get passed it and make it real.
I AM BUSY as you can see, i go by months, and i hardly put any effort in it. I am not putting alot of effort into here. I play is very very cool, don't even want her to catch me staring at her after i've asked her out.. I don't show my neediness. Only here i say it.
I Am working on my body and looks.

So, going back to my original question, is this how a guy with ALOT of OPTIONS would act/react/treat this scenario? ANY constructive feedback would be appreciated.
 

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Playing it too cool, ask for her number.
 

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i am lacking options but i want to get passed it and make it real.
I AM BUSY as you can see, i go by months, and i hardly put any effort in it. I am not putting alot of effort into here. I play is very very cool, don't even want her to catch me staring at her after i've asked her out.. I don't show my neediness. Only here i say it.
I Am working on my body and looks.

So, going back to my original question, is this how a guy with ALOT of OPTIONS would act/react/treat this scenario? ANY constructive feedback would be appreciated.
That was constructive feedback. This entire thread revolves around you lacking options.

If you put no effort into getting options then how do expect this to change?

Having options = spending ZERO time thinking about an uninterested woman = this thread doesnt get posted.

No, a guy with a lot of options would have just straight up asked her to get a drink and then he wouldnt bother with her if the answer was anything else other than yes, and wouldn't have even given her a second thought.

The reason you find yourself in this position is because you havent been straight to the point. The reason you havent been straight to the point is because you are afraid she is going to say no and leave you with no options eather than a 1/10 of an option. Except you cant ever really succeed by trying not to fail. It just doesnt work like that.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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In my opinion it's not possible to create options without a lot of effort.

DJs are built by failing. I'm convinced that men with options MUST sift through a LOT of dirt in order to get to a few ounces of gold.
Yes thats true...the problem is few people are willing to put the time in and even fewer are willing to deal with many failures before ultimately succeeding....but when you start succeeding it turns into the type of success that is beyond what you even thought was possible.
 

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So, let me get this straight, theres a fine line between
1. "Hey we should go out sometime"

VS

2. "Hey, lets go for a drink next thursday at Moe's" ?????
 

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So, let me get this straight, theres a fine line between
1. "Hey we should go out sometime"

VS

2. "Hey, lets go for a drink next thursday at Moe's" ?????
Yes, the first option sounds like a maybe plan; maybe it will happen, maybe she go with you, it all stands with the doubt. And in the second option you are giving her concrete facts, the activity (Go for a drink), the day (Next Thursday), and the place (Moe's). All she needs to do is accept the invitation or decline it, remember is your obligation for being a man to lead the interaction between you and her.
 

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So, let me get this straight, theres a fine line between
1. "Hey we should go out sometime"

VS

2. "Hey, lets go for a drink next thursday at Moe's" ?????
There is no suble difference there is a HUGE difference. You have not forced her to take any action with option 1. You HAVE forced her to take action with option 2. She will either have to decide to go or not to go.

ALWAYS force women to take action as soon as it is possible. You will spend far less wasted time with uninterested women because actions never lie.

That's what guys who are good with women do. They force a woman to take action and walk away when they dont, they dont waste 3 months letting her off the hook repeatedly from taking any kind of action.
 

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Reading this my first thought is/- it's her job to get you to spend xxxx amount of money while you are there. She does that by making you feel good. I hit on this a little while ago with my own thread. Older women are insecure because they feel like there are other options for you out there and they don't like games. Go back, be bold, ask for her number or say we're going to so and so after you're off and make it solid. If she gives you flack then drop it. Older women like boldness and direct.
 

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well, i figured she would be a cougar in her late 40s not a chick in her 20s..so.. i figured she would let me know on her part. What you guys think?
 

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Reading this my first thought is/- it's her job to get you to spend xxxx amount of money while you are there. She does that by making you feel good. I hit on this a little while ago with my own thread. Older women are insecure because they feel like there are other options for you out there and they don't like games. Go back, be bold, ask for her number or say we're going to so and so after you're off and make it solid. If she gives you flack then drop it. Older women like boldness and direct.
and yes, this was factored in, thats why i ddint want to put "effort" because i thought older women would put effort themselves as well
 

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The fact that she didn't even notice or care that you stood her up basically yet clearly still remembered you months later is a sign of zero interest.
 

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The fact that she didn't even notice or care that you stood her up basically yet clearly still remembered you months later is a sign of zero interest.
yeah.. i figured she'd somewhat have to make the next move..i left the ball in her court (considering she's 47+ and she's "confident" to make next move) thats why i just don't even try at this point after asking her out...because i figured by now, she would've brought it up/followed up again. And if so, then she isn't interested in my book. But i'm happy i took the courage to tell her that and got it out of my system

I also love the feeling of rejection. It fuels me more to work harder, become more successful. I kinda wanted to get rejected tbh..
 
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I also love the feeling of rejection. It fuels me more to work harder, become more successful. I kinda wanted to get rejected tbh..
It sounds like you fetishized outcome independance
 

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47yrs old is long past her expiry date.

How old r u ?

If u r approaching 70 then that's fine.
 

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47yrs old is long past her expiry date.

How old r u ?

If u r approaching 70 then that's fine.
36.

So, lets say you were in the EXACT same situation.. you asked her out,yadi yada etc etc, you would have to let her/them make the next move at this point correct (if she was interested)? correct? Pls answer give constructive answer. tnx
 

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Constructive answer is;

I've never dated nor desired any woman older then me.

It's too disgusting. It's makes my skin crawl to even think abt it and i believe it would give me countless nightmares.

I sincerely believe my ancestors would turn in their graves should I hook up with an older woman.

At 36, ur ideal woman should be = 36 X 1/2 + 7 = at the maximum 25 years old !

Do yourself a favor and date someone 25 years old and below.
 

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Assuming that you are really 46,well, i wouldn't be looking for anyone older too...;) It seems you don't have the data in your head, so, it wasn't much of help But tnx for trying anyway. I'm looking for an answer from someone who has experience with older women. Would you not put effort or put effort? i'm siding with no effort at this point.
 

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My current LTR is 27 yrs old.

No sagging skin yet....;)
 
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