"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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So I asked a girl out on saturday night, and she says "We'll talk about it"

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So, after a fantastic evening with this girl on Saturday night, I ask her if she had anything going for her besides her looks. Starts qualifying herself.

Then she asks me the same question. I didn't know how to handle it, so I answered.

Anyway, we're approaching her house (Mind you, her curfew was 11 PM, and I dropped her off around 10 PM after a makeout session at my house) and I start thinking to ask her out.

Anyway, JUST BEFORE she leaves the car, I blurt out "Want to start dating?".

Big error, IMO. Shouldn't have done that, later on the drive home I realized it put alot of pressure on her at that moment.

"We'll talk about it" she replies.

I didn't take it as rejection.

Today she texts: "Listen about what you asked me saturday night, i didnt mean for it to be any type of rejection i just feel i need to get to know you better"

And I immediately reply with: "Haha i dont get rejected, I just find out if she has good taste"

And she shoots back "Well i have impeccable taste ;)"

And I didn't reply.

Anyway, any comments on the situation? The only errors I really see are jumping the gun too fast and asking her out. I don't know what I was thinking, I know that we're supposed to just go out until it was assumed we were dating.

Then again, it shows her sensibility, choosing not to start dating me the same day we had our first kiss/makeout.

And yes, I smelled her, teased her, pulled back alot, moved her shirt and kissed the bare skin, etc.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Big mistake but you rescued the situation well.


She likes you but may see you as being too keen now. You're right, you put her under pressure by asking her did she want to start dating. Just take things one date at a time and see what happens.


She likes you but do not chase her or she will run.
 
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Women want to earn a man. Handing yourself to her was a big no no, but I was really impressed to see your text responses. Still, asking her out too quick (or at all) will probably be stained in her mind for a while. Be really careful and stop TRYING to qualify yourself. Just have fun.
 
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Yeah some mistakes but like the other poster said you did rescue it well.

Good work.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Next time me and her hang out, I'm planning on NOT kissing her.

I'll touch her and be warm, but I'll be teasing her and seeing how far I can go without actually doing it.

An example is pushing her up against a wall, closing in, and backing off without an explanation. Or getting my face really close to hers and my lips close to hers... then pulling away. Smelling her.

Is this a good game plan? Opinions wanted.
 
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why are you holding back from trying to have sex with her? If she feels you might be afraid to do it with her that might also hurt your chances too of really dating her if thats what you want.
 
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the d-rock said:
why are you holding back from trying to have sex with her? If she feels you might be afraid to do it with her that might also hurt your chances too of really dating her if thats what you want.
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Well I live with my parents, and at the time they were home, so sex wasn't really a possibility. She was getting quite worked up though, at one point she wrapped her legs around my leg and I could feel her *****, it was really hot against my leg.
 
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Bump (Still looking for an answer, alll the other topics drowned this one out :p)
 
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You need to have a macro game plan, all you have is a micro game plan.

You need to be cool. Ask her out on dates, but no pressure to be bf/gf. Remember, you should always be asking the question in the back of your head "Is she good enough for me?" Be in the moment and watch out for red flags, don't pedestal her
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Asked her if she wanted to chill tonight, she said she was busy all day.

She sings, and is still in High School, so I'm not too worked up about that.

Too bad for her, I'll be busy all day tomorrow and until thursday night, where I'll bes staying at a hotel... with nothing to do. Ill probably call her then.

We'll see if she texts tomorrow after me not talking to her all day.
 
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