"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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so girls keep telling me i'm such a nice guy

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and i'm still banging them...

i know some people consider a girl thinking that you're nice to be a kiss of death; but you definitely can still get top quality girls while being perceived as a nice guy.

I basically:

- keep them laughing (this is naturally who i am)
- stay unpredictable (again, this comes naturally)
- touch them often
- get them talking about sex asap

that's pretty much all i do.

i think the key is that - i'm nice. but i'm not corny. i'm not a boring conversationalist.

and i think it's also worth noting that i'm not outgoing. i hate crowds. i don't have a phone. i make 25k a year and live in a small studio apartment (i do dress very good though). girls often call me cute, but very rarely do i hear that i'm hot or sexy (so i'm like a 6-6.5 to most girls).

but basically - i'm saying - why are some people afraid for being perceived as nice and genuine? if a girl tells you that she likes you because you're a nice guy - why is that a bad thing?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Basically because a "nice guy" is non threatning....kinda like one of her girlfriends ....you needa be the guy who if she gave you half the chance you'd **** her!

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i F**K 80% of the girls i set out for... even though i am perceived as being a nice guy (this doesn't actually mean i am - i very much am self-absorbed and women find that out a few days in - but by then it's normally too late for them to take back what they gave me)

i don't think your sexual openess and horniness has anything to do with being nice or a bad boy. i make it very clear that i'm a freak in bed, but i'm also nice.
 
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bukowski_merit said:
i F**K 80% of the girls i set out for... even though i am perceived as being a nice guy (this doesn't actually mean i am - i very much am self-absorbed and women find that out a few days in - but by then it's normally too late for them to take back what they gave me)

i don't think your sexual openess and horniness has anything to do with being nice or a bad boy. i make it very clear that i'm a freak in bed, but i'm also nice.
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So your saying being the "nice guy" is cool...aslong as they perceive you as it and your actually not?....

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it's just a misconception on this site.

people her are often being seen as a "nice guy", one who sucks up to people and chases girls around and can't stand up for themselves. So they change to the complete opposite in fear of coming off as "nice"

they are confusing this with just a guy being nice.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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See i'm not a nice guy anymore without even trying, i'm a ****head....and it's not cause i'm trying to be...i'm just sick of women and now i'm not bothered by then so i manipulate them and everything...don't blame me blame society for turning me that way

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i used to be a jerk like you too.
but you are left with any real friends.
and u are just left empty.
and girls don't even like guys that are mean to the people around them and seem to be pissed off.
demonic, i'll bet that you will see this sometime and start being more positive.
or maybe you're experiencing something totally different.....who knows.
 
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i used to be a jerk like you too.
but you are left with any real friends.
and u are just left empty.
and girls don't even like guys that are mean to the people around them and seem to be pissed off.
demonic, i'll bet that you will see this sometime and start being more positive.
or maybe you're experiencing something totally different.....who knows.
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I do feel like i could do with alot more friends, i do have like 3-4 good friends...but your right.

it's not like i'm TRYING to be an ass, i guess after a bad relationship i gave up trying to be something i'm not and just said and did things i wanted to do.

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demonic said:
So your saying being the "nice guy" is cool...aslong as they perceive you as it and your actually not?....

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yes, that's pretty much what i'm saying...
as long as you're not a push-over, as long as you don't fall in love after one date and start crowding her (like most nice guys do), as long as you don't act too gentlemanly, as long as you show that you're not a friend; that you're into sex - then it shouldn't be too bad for you. those were all mistakes i made when i was growing up... when i was the typically 'nice guy'...

unfortunately, most 'nice guys' who get converted into seducers or whatever - think they have to transform into another form of person. i believe that there's a few things you need to know and change about yourself (your appearance being just as important as the rest) and that's it. i don't think you need to be a jerk, @sshole, or anything...
 
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I do feel like i could do with alot more friends, i do have like 3-4 good friends...but your right.

it's not like i'm TRYING to be an ass, i guess after a bad relationship i gave up trying to be something i'm not and just said and did things i wanted to do.

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yeah i know man.
it's like ur pissed at the world and you don't want to deal with that sh1t anymore.
you shield yourself with a jerk attitude.
I think i was just afraid of putting myself out there again.
It's just fear of what you don't know.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Guess it's gonna take alot of time, atleast i won't be called a "nice guy" anytime soon though ;)
 
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demonic said:
I do feel like i could do with alot more friends, i do have like 3-4 good friends...but your right.

it's not like i'm TRYING to be an ass, i guess after a bad relationship i gave up trying to be something i'm not and just said and did things i wanted to do.

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i can understand that. i found sites like these and started reading the ebooks and stuff back like 7 years ago because i had a string of 2-3 straight girls who i 'nice guyed' to death (these were girls who were very interested in me when we meant and then lost interest quickly, but i tried to carry it on 4-5 months out of desperation; never scoring with one of them because i was in friendship zone before i knew it.)

i guess i just read all this material and take from it what i think i can apply to who i already am. i'm naturally a nice guy, i naturally don't wanna hurt women, i naturally am honest. but when i was a the corny gentlemanly nice guy i used to be - that really wasn't me. i am sexual, i do mostly just want to have sex with them. i am crazy; so why should i choose my words like an actor reading a script?

but at the same time - i am not naturally a jerk or an @sshole; and way too much drama comes to my friends who are like that. so i'm content being natural, but knowing what lines not to cross and what lines to draw myself.
 
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Crazy Asian said:
it's just a misconception on this site.

people her are often being seen as a "nice guy", one who sucks up to people and chases girls around and can't stand up for themselves. So they change to the complete opposite in fear of coming off as "nice"

they are confusing this with just a guy being nice.
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very true man... i used to be stunned when a girl who i was getting with would reveal to me that she thought i was 'such a nice guy. so different from who i normally date.' because i have been taught on here that that's a kiss of death.
 
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