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"So... are you single?"

tsmith2334

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Hey, everyone... figured I'd stop replying to threads and start my own here. Little situation happened last week I'd want you all to weigh in on.

I was at a bar/ restaurant with my friends when a girl we had graduated with walked in. She look breathtakingly gorgeous, "HB9.9" if you will.

After a quick nod to acknowledge her (we were buddies in high school, nothing more) I walked by her table to quickly say hello and ask how her family was doing.

The first thing she mentioned was that she got a huge kick out of an old picture I posted on Facebook of me and her from high school. She seemed very sincere, judging that she commented on it when I initially posted it and after seeing me in person.

She told me to sit down (her friends hadn't gotten there yet) and said I could help myself to the appetizer she had ordered. We started some small talk, basically the old post high school update. I did relatively well maintaining eye contact and exuding confidence, but I didn't hit her with anything that could be considered flirtatious or Don Juanish.

Then, pretty much out of nowhere, she bluntly says "are you single?". I gave her the standard "playing the field" response (that I learned here) and reciprocated the question. She said she was single too. We then talked about how it was crazy that other kids we had graduated with were getting engaged while we were both available. And... that was kinda how we left that subject.

Her friends eventually arrived and I went back to where I was sitting at the bar. I tried a number-close which basically turned into a generic "call me sometime" kinda thing and that we'd keep in touch. For the record, she didn't refuse to give me her number (I used to have it in high school), I just closed kinda sloppy and didn't ask for her digits outright. That's nerves in action for ya.

So, what's the verdict? Was she being friendly, or did she seem interested? I'd like to hear some opinions.
 

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Could've left and finished her off threw Facebook. Shes probably into you, you don't know unlesss you go for it, ask her to hang out sometime just the two of you or something.
 

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she is open to your advances. you have to be the lead male here. In my opinion, the close could have been better (more confident), but in the bigger sense of things, it doesn't matter... if you got the number, you have a chance.
 

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hanson said:
Could've left and finished her off threw Facebook. Shes probably into you, you don't know unlesss you go for it, ask her to hang out sometime just the two of you or something.
Yea, she even told me to send her a message on Facebook sometime. But I'm not sure if nowadays that is an invite or a cop out.

daygameguy said:
she is open to your advances. you have to be the lead male here. In my opinion, the close could have been better (more confident), but in the bigger sense of things, it doesn't matter... if you got the number, you have a chance.
Thanks man. You're right, close could have been way better. Part of me was nervous, and part of me didn't really care too much, because I'm back at school now and she graduated. Still, I'd feel a lot more better if I had effectively number closed.

I agree though, I think she was open to my advances.
 
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It does sound like she was open to you. Remember to keep fighting off those nervous feelings.

Also, take advantage of the Facebook situation.

Good Luck,
Relationship-Buddy
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Women love controlled male assertiveness, especially when it is directed at them...as soon as she said she was single you should have number closed her right then. "Great, what's your number". Good lesson for next time.
 

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tsmith2334 said:
Then, pretty much out of nowhere, she bluntly says "are you single?". I gave her the standard "playing the field" response (that I learned here) and reciprocated the question. She said she was single too. We then talked about how it was crazy that other kids we had graduated with were getting engaged while we were both available. And... that was kinda how we left that subject.

Her friends eventually arrived and I went back to where I was sitting at the bar. I tried a number-close which basically turned into a generic "call me sometime" kinda thing and that we'd keep in touch. For the record, she didn't refuse to give me her number (I used to have it in high school), I just closed kinda sloppy and didn't ask for her digits outright. That's nerves in action for ya.

So, what's the verdict? Was she being friendly, or did she seem interested? I'd like to hear some opinions.
Sounds like she was being friendly.
 

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I think she's interested if she just outright asked you if you were single.

On another note, when stuff like that happens, what are you supposed to say? Like she says something like that, and you want to ask her out...how does that play out?
 

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DonJuan11 said:
Sounds like she was being friendly.
Maybe... it's very possible.

Most of the people who responded seem to think otherwise, but I have no idea.

I don't think she would have asked/ cared if I was single if she wasn't interested, but she might have been being friendly...
 

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it's very possible that she's interested mate. Get her on the phone and get your flirting done - see what you can do from there. :)
 

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shaunuk said:
it's very possible that she's interested mate. Get her on the phone and get your flirting done - see what you can do from there. :)
+1, a simple phone call should answer your question.

DJ
 

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She COULD have asked if you were single b/c she wanted to know if she could hook a friend up with you. That's happened to me several times before.
 

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DonS said:
Guys, I don't think he got digits. He says he never actually asked for her number, and that she never actually said no.

OP, did you, or did you not, get her digits?

I don't think you did. I think you broke frame badly at the end and she ejected.
Didn't actually get the digits from her. Didn't ask out for her number outright, rather I just kinda said we should definitely keep in touch. You're right, I broke frame.

I do however have her a number for her in my phone. Only thing is, it's from High School, so there's no knowing if it's still a working number.

For anyone suggesting Facebook, we're friends on it... so I definitely could use it to contact her. That's always a good idea.
 
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